Why Vista Sucks...

From a gamers perspective, Vista and DX10 sound like a breath of fresh air, however I wonder how many gamers thought about what it will do to their PCs in as far as usability goes...
 
I recently got my first mac at home. Been using it "full time" as much as I possibly can. Got Parallels installed with XP running along side for the odd things that I still need Windows for.

I seriously think that Apple are going to come out on top - with their release of Leopard around the same time as Vista. I am extremely excited to learn about what features Leopard has to offer,and I think that a lot of the features are going to be big WOW factor features, where as Vista, not heard ANYTHING special about it at all.

So in short, I would suspect there is going to be a sharp rise in the number of Mac users, come the release of Leopard and Vista.
 
Berserker said:
If you don't like it, don't install it, and don't buy it when it's released. Job done. XP will be supported for about five years after Vista is out. Bill Gates isn't going to come around to your house and personally shoot you if you choose not to use it.

Yeah dont buy it and then not be able to use directx 10 or play new games like halo2. Not really an option is it?
 
I remember back when XP was released people were saying similar things about how they hated it, and how they are staying with Windows2000, how XP is just a Fisherprice theme and uses so much memory/much slower etc. Now look at how many people use XP compared to 2000.

Most of your rant seems to be about the layout of the Control Panel & UAC(memory usage can be put down to it being a beta & the new way memory is handled). UAC is still being majorly reworked to find the right level of security. The Control Panel is fairly easy once you get to know where everything is. As for the extra programs (like Sidebar), you don't have to use them if you don't want to, but I like the idea of being able to see what the weather forecast is for the next 5 days just by looking at my desktop.

And I find it funny people are saying they hate the UAC/Sidebar/"Because its different", and are going to move to Mac OSX, yet the same things are there in Mac OSX.

I am still looking forward to Vista, and will be upgrading when it is released, as I am using Beta2 & Office 2007 full time on my work computer. I was not that happy with Beta2 of IE7, yet come Beta3 it is so good that I now use it full time instead of Firefox, so I have hope that the performance issues with Vista will be fixed. But I just love using new technology and learning how to use it.
 
microsoft beta's to tend to be pants, unlike google beta's which we have come to expect to essentialy be the full app.

I believe microsoft will turn it around and vista will be a vast improvement. also, most of the criticism's are aimed at the interface and usability. that, in every sense, is just the tip of the iceberg. windows 2000 > xp was a very small jump. NT5.0 to NT5.1 in fact. Vista has undergone some very serious code updates/improvements etc... and is NT6.0.

The network center is one hell of a mess, although the network stack is _apparantly_ much improved. I did notice that it picked up workgroup computers etc very quickly and nicely, whereas xp hangs like a [explitive deleted] when using the "my network places" screen. especially on wireless networks.

the interface _is_ cludgy, although much improved from earlier betas. i think it very quickly detracts from the focus and it's easy to get lost especially for less techie people. i think the blur effects etc are not neccasarily _great_ although they are very pretty. I also believe osx also suffers from this a little, but NO WHERE NEAR as much as vista b2.

so please, don't write it off before the FINAL release. it is ridiculous. ms use there beta stage as exactly that, beta. but public perception of beta is not what it used to be, as companies feel more pressure for the beta's to be nearer completion i.e. google. i mean, gmail is _still_ in fricking beta and probably always will be. yet i would say it is a complete product... they just keeping adding to it. which means, there is also a beta version of the beta... and that's NOT the point. ms gave you the beta for you to try, find bugs, and in reality just to comment on how it is going so far. they will pull something out of the bag, i'm sure of it. and i, for one, lookforward to it's actual release.

which, for the record, i am sure will be later than they're letting on as i do believe they appear to have a long way to go. i've just given up using it as my main machines primary os since the beta2 release as i'm finding it is becoming less and less stable. Especially media player 11. it's pretty, but that's slow as hell and crashes all the damn time. both on vista and xp. oh, and vista/media player really hate my ipod.
 
Yup don't buy it then, no DX10 for you im afraid, you on your last graphics card ever now then as well eh, well least your saving money by not being able to upgrade i suppose. :p

What graphics card are you stuck with then ?
 
Energize said:
Yeah dont buy it and then not be able to use directx 10 or play new games like halo2. Not really an option is it?

Why not buy a console if you want to play games? Then you use some form of Linux on your PC and you don't have to go near Vista if you don't like it. :)

Besides, what developer is going to abandon DX9 considering the market share it has when DX10 is released?
 
afraser2k said:
Why not buy a console if you want to play games? Then you use some form of Linux on your PC and you don't have to go near Vista if you don't like it. :)

Besides, what developer is going to abandon DX9 considering the market share it has when DX10 is released?

Because some games arent released on consoles?
 
My mate works at MS and they have been told that they will be releasing WinFS in a service pack when things get sorted, dont you just love MS :)

Stelly
 
Stelly said:
My mate works at MS and they have been told that they will be releasing WinFS in a service pack when things get sorted, dont you just love MS :)

Stelly

Why is WinFS so much "better" than NTFS?
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yup don't buy it then, no DX10 for you im afraid, you on your last graphics card ever now then as well eh, well least your saving money by not being able to upgrade i suppose. :p

What graphics card are you stuck with then ?
DX10 cards will run DX9, as DX9 cards run DX8 and so on. Win XP apparently isnt capable of running DX10, so unless developers are extremely silly and dont make an allowance for this fact there will be a very, initially at least, small market for there wares.
 
When XP came out all the die hards were slagging it off and vowing to never upgrade from Win98, I would hazard a guess that 99% of those people are now using XP.
 
malfunkshun said:
DX10 cards will run DX9, as DX9 cards run DX8 and so on. Win XP apparently isnt capable of running DX10, so unless developers are extremely silly and dont make an allowance for this fact there will be a very, initially at least, small market for there wares.

Yes i know DX10 cards run DX9, but surely theres no point in buying a DX10 card when he cant even use DX10, i wouldnt waste £400+ all the time on a new DX10 card to soley run DX9 stuff, its madness. :p

If hes got something like an x1900, then he may as well stick with it, as DX10 is useless to him seen as he can not use it, why would you pay for a feature you can not ever use. :confused:
 
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DX10 and better TCP/IP stack allowing more stable downloads and better handling of packetloss is why i will be upgrading
 
Whatever way you look at it,
It Will, When Released, Be Better Than XP. K,Thanks,Bye
and hey, i'll never have to look at my green and blue taskbar ever again.
However one thing they should do is allow custom toolbars.
And im sure i saw a pic before on the where a wallpaper has water in it and a window placed above the water would be reflected in it, does that happen in vista or what?
 
Lost-Prophet said:
Why is WinFS so much "better" than NTFS?


it's different in the same way that we now use databases and not just store information in a flat file. Allows for much faster searching. and means you save stuff automatically in sensible places. kinda hard to explain. suffice to say the index/search features in vista are a shadow of what they would have been with winFS. in fact, winfs was originally created not long after windows95 (although with a different name) and they've really struggled to perfect it for what they want. suffice to say, when it's out it will also only be a shadow of what it was originally going to be... it is now just a wrapper ontop of ntfs as opposed to a unique file system.

more information can be found about all this, and other vista stuff at http://channel9.msdn.com which are great to watch when you're bored at work or trying to sleep :D

and no, i don't work for microsoft, just wish i did ;)
 
I remember how complicated it was using vista when I tried to create a home network, in xp it was as simple as doing a quick wizard but now theres about 50 buttons, private network, public network etc... I thought vista was supposed to be an easy to use operating system. :rolleyes:
 
Energize said:
I remember how complicated it was using vista when I tried to create a home network, in xp it was as simple as doing a quick wizard but now theres about 50 buttons, private network, public network etc... I thought vista was supposed to be an easy to use operating system. :rolleyes:

It is still in Beta is it not?
 
The proof will be in the final release, which I think its going to be awesome.

Its funny how most of the people here don't have a clue on what goes on to make such complicated software.

If its so crap make something yourself.
 
marc2003 said:
one word. search. wtf are they thinking? i cannot for the life of me perform the simplest search operations for files on my hard drives. :mad:


Search? pfft. the ultimate organisation is knowing where every file is on your hdds! - took a while though.
 
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