Wierd GTA 5 performance issues

I can't believe how choppy GTA V feels under 60fps, like 40fps is unplayable, some games just don't feel choppy at all at 40fps.

Also, gras on high and shadows on high, or the game is never smooth for me at 4k.

GTA V is literally the only game where I demand 60fps, every other game is fine at anything above 35 for me.
 
SkeeterUK said:
On my 670 i got far smoother fps with adaptive sync on in nvidia panel. Dunno if thats any help. Also you could try setting gtav exe to high priority in task man.

Plus when you had a 1070 that was awhile ago, im sure updates adding more stuff or what not has effected it to prevent a good comparison between cards by now and drivers. Tho for sure ud expect better so i dunno. Maybe some shadowplay or gfe is interfering perhaps?

Also in your info it lists this "Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)" which isnt win 10 given the version it says but win 8. Are you on win 10 if so make sure you up to the latest version as it would be best for making the hardware work best for games.

Also your using 2x pcie cables from the psu to the card pcie leads and not one cable with two ends are you?

Btw msaa is a big hit, using fxaa and txaa with slider up would be just as good but lower performance impact.
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Hey Skeet, thanks for your message.

Adaptive Sync - Does this really help? Will give it a go I guess... as well as the task manager priority to high.

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - this was an upgrade from Windows 7, why do you think this means Windows 8?

PCIE - does it really make a difference if you are sharing in the same? The 2080 Ti has 2 X 8 pin connector and 1 x 6 pin which it needs...
Youre saying each connector needs to come separately from the power supply?
 
Yeah this bit indicated after a google as my win 10 is 1909 version and thought hmm urs is a funny number and 6.2, Build 9200 came up with win 8. Thats why i asked. Type winver into run to check if u want. Should be i think 1909 iirc is the latest at the mo.

Yeah no vsync ingame but adaptive vsync i think gave a smoother experience.

Yeah it should if its a 2080 ti as there power hungry. I know some say 1 cable can handle all the power for 1 cable with 2 pcie ends but when ppl have tried after being advised to try 2 seperate cables 1 cable for 1 pcie and another for the other into a 2080ti they did get a little boost in fps and they said it felt smoother. Who knows whos right, but worth a shot if u wana try it. With the 2 seperate pcie cables for it.

Suppose you have tried DDU to do a clean install of drivers even if its to clear any win 7 driver stuff left in since u upgraded or changed cards even.

You could also give prefer max power performance in nvidia panel in global settings under power somewhere. And check windows power is it balanced or max performance?

Last thing to probs check is, is there a mb update that might help run it better, probs not needed but u can have a peek at the bios revisions of the mb see if anything comes up u think u might want.

Also

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 193/564 frames (34.22%)
Pass 1: 221/567 frames (38.98%)
Pass 2: 211/567 frames (37.21%)
Pass 3: 209/553 frames (37.79%)
Pass 4: 2546/6941 frames (36.68%)

For the 2080ti first results (notice there better later on in a post) were very worrying low like it was starved the system somewhere. Somehow u boosted them a fair bit later, just keep doing what u did and maybe u can get them all 100 percent.

If you have fast download speed and dont mind a reinstall of the game on nice fast ssd (presume its on a ssd anyhow) try that, maybe along the way somethings gone iffy, a nice fresh install should fix it. (last resort stuff tho).

Oh i found this which is always a good idea anyhow but incase maybe you dont have xmp profile on for ur ram, go to bios and turn it on xmp and save and reboot and try again, if its already xmp profile then nvm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odeofVjBHbE
 
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SkeeterUK said:
Yeah this bit indicated after a google as my win 10 is 1909 version and thought hmm urs is a funny number and 6.2, Build 9200 came up with win 8. Thats why i asked. Type winver into run to check if u want. Should be i think 1909 iirc is the latest at the mo.

Yeah no vsync ingame but adaptive vsync i think gave a smoother experience.

Yeah it should if its a 2080 ti as there power hungry. I know some say 1 cable can handle all the power for 1 cable with 2 pcie ends but when ppl have tried after being advised to try 2 seperate cables 1 cable for 1 pcie and another for the other into a 2080ti they did get a little boost in fps and they said it felt smoother. Who knows whos right, but worth a shot if u wana try it. With the 2 seperate pcie cables for it.

Suppose you have tried DDU to do a clean install of drivers even if its to clear any win 7 driver stuff left in since u upgraded or changed cards even.

You could also give prefer max power performance in nvidia panel in global settings under power somewhere. And check windows power is it balanced or max performance?

Last thing to probs check is, is there a mb update that might help run it better, probs not needed but u can have a peek at the bios revisions of the mb see if anything comes up u think u might want.

Also

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 193/564 frames (34.22%)
Pass 1: 221/567 frames (38.98%)
Pass 2: 211/567 frames (37.21%)
Pass 3: 209/553 frames (37.79%)
Pass 4: 2546/6941 frames (36.68%)

For the 2080ti first results (notice there better later on in a post) were very worrying low like it was starved the system somewhere. Somehow u boosted them a fair bit later, just keep doing what u did and maybe u can get them all 100 percent.

If you have fast download speed and dont mind a reinstall of the game on nice fast ssd (presume its on a ssd anyhow) try that, maybe along the way somethings gone iffy, a nice fresh install should fix it. (last resort stuff tho).

Oh i found this which is always a good idea anyhow but incase maybe you dont have xmp profile on for ur ram, go to bios and turn it on xmp and save and reboot and try again, if its already xmp profile then nvm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odeofVjBHbE
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Cheers Skeet.

Windows - coming up as Windows 1809.
Cables - Hmm I need 3 cables since I got 2 x 8 pin and 1 x 6 pin.... Can I share one on the 6 and 8 pin? Incidentally on CODMW I am getting 98% GPU utilisation so it must surely getting full juice?
DDU - actually I havent tried this, to be honest, 3dmark is running well so it didnt make me thing there was anything wrong... but could give it a go... I have changed cards several times...
Mobo update - yep all up to date
2080 first vs second result - the first result was at lower resolution and lower settings than the second one ironically.... this is what is bizzare about all of this...
Re download game - yep good idea, will try this again...
XMP - on already :)
 
Check in GPUz that you're card is running at PCI-E 16x. Had some major issues recently (in Wreckfest) despite Heaven and other benchmarks showing his scores. Turned out my card was only recognised at 4x - a reseat and it was showing at 16x and game performance was nice and smooth again.
 
Can't believe it! Turned off Vsync and put it on in NV control panel, grass to ultra now and mostly cranked up except AA off as that gets to 25fps, now at 4k mostly 60 minimum of 35 but it's not choppy!
 
Running 16X no probs.
However youre right my Windows is old, now upgrading.

Incidentally why the hell is online so much slower than offline?
Im getting like 40FPS online vs 80FPS offline.
 
I’ll try this later with the same settings with my 1080ti, though the cpu is at 4.5ghz instead of 3.5.
I don’t like touching my cpu & mem clocks as i did before (back to stock) as when i set the overclock again for some reason it wasnt stable.
The two driver versions are not the same, you could try the 1070 on the newer drivers, used by the 2080ti
 
Cavallino said:
1070 Guest? Sorry not following.
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"I noticed I had bench results from 2 years ago for my 1070 as well..."
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I mean get put the 1070 GPU back in and try it on the 445.87 Nvidia driver.

That said, something in definately not right. It just looks like the 2080Ti is being limited to 60fps with Vsync. Unless its jsut coincident that all fps average is 60... are you sure vsync is not enabled in on the 2080Ti driver or in a game profile or something?

Pass 0, 34.744057, 78.372978, 60.356857
Pass 1, 30.298256, 81.114189, 60.733433
Pass 2, 38.276485, 81.554764, 60.628880
Pass 3, 14.566939, 116.944016, 60.545155
Pass 4, 33.327000, 97.782295, 60.452713
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My results with a 1080Ti, all setting and resolution are the same though driver and system is slightly different. I would expect your 2080Ti to hit ~140-180fps in the average frames


Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 33.152760, 122.222488, 103.428452
Pass 1, 58.633144, 125.708679, 107.064873
Pass 2, 75.727737, 166.093643, 114.919212
Pass 3, 80.453110, 184.716553, 130.889206
Pass 4, 48.859856, 176.703415, 109.248444

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 8.181800, 30.163401, 9.668519
Pass 1, 7.954900, 17.055201, 9.340132
Pass 2, 6.020700, 13.205201, 8.701765
Pass 3, 5.413700, 12.429601, 7.640049
Pass 4, 5.659200, 20.466700, 9.153448

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 970/971 frames (99.90%)
Pass 1: 1006/1007 frames (99.90%)
Pass 2: 1054/1054 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1211/1211 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 12303/12326 frames (99.81%)

Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 971/971 frames (100.00%)
Pass 1: 1007/1007 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 1054/1054 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1211/1211 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 12326/12326 frames (100.00%)


=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
16384MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 11667MB, Driver Version 445.78
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x1b06

=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1200 (FullScreen) @ 100Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 8
SSAO: 1
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 2
MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 3
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2
UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: true
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 0.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.300000
 
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Guest - I see what you mean, unfortunately I dont have the 1070 anymore.
I updated to Windows 10 1909. I
Currently I see around 60 fps onlline but when I look at the floor it jumps to 70fps so I know there is no vsync on.
But GPU and CPU still hovering around 60-70% so they are definitely not being taxed.

Just doesnt make any sense....

Skeet - Cabling is all individual to the card, I double checked.
The card is the MSI Trio 2080Ti.
PSU? Mmm honestly cannot remember but its a 1.2kW affair I think.

I mean in other games I am getting good fps e.g. 80-120fps in CODMW
 
Online open world games will often be worse fps than offline its the extra scripts and data handling etc. Not sure by how much mind you but usually online mode can be worse fps wise than sp/offline mode gameplay.

Only thing is if you try ddu as you didnt say if you tried it recently when i mentioned it before. Always use the newest one not a old ddu you might have got ages ago.

Gta 5 at 4k with ur card should be around 80-90 fps ultra settings (no msaa but use fxaa and txaa) tho not the advanced section, they shouldnt be on like long shadows etc. And avoid ingame vsync and use nvidia panel adaptive vsync instead if needed.

Grass is recommended to normal not ultra as well, probs not notice it half the time anyhow as you play.

Cod is a diff type of game and engine, cant really compare fps with it to this game.
 
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SkeeterUK said:
Online open world games will often be worse fps than offline its the extra scripts and data handling etc. Not sure by how much mind you but usually online mode can be worse fps wise than sp/offline mode gameplay.

Only thing is if you try ddu as you didnt say if you tried it recently when i mentioned it before. Always use the newest one not a old ddu you might have got ages ago.

Gta 5 at 4k with ur card should be around 80-90 fps ultra settings (no msaa but use fxaa and txaa) tho not the advanced section, they shouldnt be on like long shadows etc. And avoid ingame vsync and use nvidia panel adaptive vsync instead if needed.

Grass is recommended to normal not ultra as well, probs not notice it half the time anyhow as you play.

Cod is a diff type of game and engine, cant really compare fps with it to this game.
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So you mean turn off everything on advanced graphics? To achieve 80/90fps?

Point is why is you usage and CPU usage low. Clearly there is scop for more performance and GTA for some reason is not using it.
 
Thanks for your help Skeet. This is crazy. Ive just benched at 3840 x 1600 and 1920 x 1200.
Both resolutions give the same results.... just doesnt make sense to me.
Vsync is definitely off. So I do not know what is holding back the GPU which is nowhere being utilised by GTA 5.
 
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