Wifes just been flashed while driveing the ATR for the 1st time

Hate · 13 Feb 2006 at 23:52

what camera was it in brighton?

VBDub · 14 Feb 2006 at 01:16

flash the front or the back of the car?

djbenjo · 14 Feb 2006 at 01:19

Quantic said:
EDIT: are you sure this thread wasn't just an excuse to tell everyone you have a Type R?

No, that would be this one http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6371735&postcount=1

Gaijin · 14 Feb 2006 at 01:20

Yeah, if it was the one at the bottom of my road mate, then that one is dodgy - it flashed as i was turning right immediately after the dashes. Taking that corner on the inside, I don't believe its possible to take that corner at above 25mph at the risk of inadvertantly parking in someones front garden. But still I got flashed, and i take that corner everyday and dont speed in 30's. Whether you like it or not you are always on the brake before the corner.

Not to mention I must be in at least 10 photos as i've walked up from the station waiting to cross the road at the same point. With no traffic.

Claw · 14 Feb 2006 at 03:11

Tupac said:
Didn't he try using the 10% story?

I would have appealled. 10% and 1mph over and your nicked, eg doing 34mph points and fine, or doing 78mph on a motorway. Thats what was told by the local bill when i was on a bikewise course with them last year.

Anymore info can be found at pepipoo (where did it get its name from??)

http://www.pepipoo.com/

Beepcake · 14 Feb 2006 at 06:27

You can be nicked for doing 1mph over the limit, it's down to the discretion whether they give you any leeway. Most people seem to think the 10%+1mph thing is law, which is an urban myth; 99% of the time it probably applies, but outside a school at 8.30 for instance and you may well get done for 31.

Edit: Obviously automated cams are set to a %age of leeway, but again, it's down to the local force what that leeway is.

Claw · 14 Feb 2006 at 07:38

Beepcake said:
You can be nicked for doing 1mph over the limit...

Of course you can, you've broken the law :rolleyes:

Using my sat nav if I'm doing 34 on my bike it shows up at 30mph, 33 in my car shows up at 30mph, and in my mothers Mercedes you also have to do an indicated 34 to be doing 30mph. So in the three vehicles i regularly drive they are at least 10% out.
I'm pretty darn sure its just not that the vehicles i drive this happens to.

The only way around this is to have your speedo correctly calibrated. Even police patrol vehicles have to have this checked very regularly (every couple of weeks supposedly) and how could they expect all the cars in the UK have this done on a regular basis?

We perhaps should be asking why aren't car speedo's more accurate. Even taking into account tyre wear and pressure over the life of the tyre, which does affect your indicated/true speed BTW.

This also means that if your driving at 30mph, going by your indicated speedo readings you should be well under the limit, but if your driving at around at an indicated 35 in a 30 zone you'll be doing around 31mph, and if your driving around with that type of speed showing in a 30 zone you should expect to be nicked anyway, even if it is 31mph.

Sadgeek · 14 Feb 2006 at 08:05

Claw said:
We perhaps should be asking why aren't car speedo's more accurate.

Is there really any need for the additional expense? As long as you believe your speedo, and stick to the indicated speed limits, you would never be caught speeding.

Ok, so you could be going 1-4mph faster and still be within the legal limit, but is it really going to make that much of a difference to your journey?

I think the amount of work which would be required to ensure that a speedo gives precisely the correct speed would cost a small fortune, and then also depend on you having it calibrated every few 100 miles due to tyre wear/pressure etc. Even atmospheric pressure could have a bearing on the accuracy.

Rotty · 14 Feb 2006 at 08:20

the 10% + 2mph is a guideline , as others have said they can nick you for 1mph over , the specs systems in Nottingham are set very low ( my neighbour was done for 42 in a 40 ) every year in the run up to Christmas

Dogbreath · 14 Feb 2006 at 08:33

Claw said:
We perhaps should be asking why aren't car speedo's more accurate

Perhaps we should be asking why camera partnerships are such a bunch of money grabbing, empire building crooks, with little interest in really promoting road safety and virtualy no accountability to either the public or the government?

Oracle · 14 Feb 2006 at 08:56

How the hell can you tell she was doing 'no more than 30.5'? That could be 31, 32 mph. No car speedo goes up in .50 markings, the dash would be a mess!!

Its unlikely she got caught. My understanding of speed camera tolerances is as follows. 10% +3 so 36mph in a 30mph zone will attract attention froma Gatso. Having said that, there has recently been some serious Gatso bashing in terms of their calibration and accuracy!

Beepcake · 14 Feb 2006 at 09:09

Claw said:
Of course you can, you've broken the law

You implied in your previous post you would only get nicked for +10% + 1mph, so :rolleyes:

right back at you.

Demon · 14 Feb 2006 at 14:19

Claw said:
We perhaps should be asking why aren't car speedo's more accurate. Even taking into account tyre wear and pressure over the life of the tyre, which does affect your indicated/true speed BTW.

I believe Car manufacturers purposely set their speedo's approx 10% over on purpose.. tyre wear and srop in pressure both reduce the rolling radious, and therefor have a negative effect on indicated speed, i.e. you will be going slower and slower for an indicated 30MPH as your tyres wear/pressures drop..

Plus, when driving, you are not constantly looking at the speedo (Well I hope not).. even if you try and stick to 30, you will vary your speed by a few MPH just because you are not always concentrating 100% on modulating your speed to 30MPH.. having the speedo 10% over to start with means you should be able to go upto an indicated 36-38MPH (Real Speed approx 33-35MPH) before you risk being snapped..

Does the car have the standard Alloys?? I've known a couple of people that had aftermarket alloys with different tyre sizes that made their rolling radius larger, and therefore there speedo's where then under-reading the true speed, by about 10%..

Or as Fox Says, the parallax effect from viewing the speedo needle from the passenger side meant she could have been doing 35, but it looked like 30 from your angle of view..

Or it's a dodgy camera.. which would be the best outcome!!! lets hope!!

Phantom · 14 Feb 2006 at 14:28

probably/hopefully its nothing and it/they just wanted a piccy of your nice car...

Skywalker · 14 Feb 2006 at 15:06

[TW]Fox said:
Dont forget that because of the fact the needle isn't flush with the dial face, if you glance at the speedo sideways, ie from the passenger seat, it'll show a different, normally lower speed, than if you look at it straight on from the drivers seat.

Well at 30mph the needle points at the passenger and the dash is very open

zain · 14 Feb 2006 at 16:42

They make mistakes but now apparently they dont allow anything over the limit before it was 35 but now its even 30.5 :/ More money for government I guess heh

minidan · 14 Feb 2006 at 19:17

if it comes through take it to court, you might get court costs but i went to court last week and its great,t here real people with real feeling and will show you leeway. or maybe i justgot a cool guy and you might get a right [sensord] [sensord]. hehe

gd luck!

monkeyspank · 14 Feb 2006 at 20:45

[TW]Fox said:
Dont forget that because of the fact the needle isn't flush with the dial face, if you glance at the speedo sideways, ie from the passenger seat, it'll show a different, normally lower speed, than if you look at it straight on from the drivers seat.

At 30mph yeah, if the needle is pointing more down than up.

Duke · 14 Feb 2006 at 21:56

OMG 30.5MPH... CHILD KILLERS!!!! :mad:

Only kidding

sounds like a dodgy camera