Wii on Component
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accepted cheers.Being a hardcore pc gamer, I struggle with the new fangled consoles for the kids. This Christmas, I have been stung for:
Xbox360 + 3 games
VGA cable and WiFi adaptor for the above
Wii + 1 game
20 " LCD TV and component cable for the above
Wii Play and Nunchuck
Wii classic controller
Two legacy gamecube controllers to play the kids old games
Looks like I made an ar*e of the TV purcahse as it doesn't accept component input from the Wii. So looks like a second LCD TV purchase is imminent.
I could have got the kids a a Barbie doll and 'Heelies' and bought myself a new rig instead
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I'm not sure how Gamespot made Zelda look like that as the PAL version doesn't support the HD/EDTV mode.
My own experience with the Component Cable is that it doesn't really boost it a great deal on LCD TV's. RGB Scart would be just as good. Having said that, it is much better than pure Composite.
I play using a 40" LCD TV and due to the low resolution there is the pixel stretching that you get with TFT Monitors when using a non-native res. The amount of aliasing on screen makes my PC Gamer eyes bleed.
I've only seen a minor improvement on the Home Menu. The rest of the games is all colour vibrancy and slight texture clarity.
Having said that, the Wii isn't about graphics, and after 5mins of playing Zelda, all gripes I have about the jaggies vanishes.
My own experience with the Component Cable is that it doesn't really boost it a great deal on LCD TV's. RGB Scart would be just as good. Having said that, it is much better than pure Composite.
I play using a 40" LCD TV and due to the low resolution there is the pixel stretching that you get with TFT Monitors when using a non-native res. The amount of aliasing on screen makes my PC Gamer eyes bleed.
I've only seen a minor improvement on the Home Menu. The rest of the games is all colour vibrancy and slight texture clarity.
Having said that, the Wii isn't about graphics, and after 5mins of playing Zelda, all gripes I have about the jaggies vanishes.
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Funny, Zelda TP on my Wii is outputting at a confirmed 480p (EDTV resolution). How does that work then, eh?Spike_UK said:
I think the XD3 engine on my LG 37LC3R does an amazing job on the Wii and makes the games look amazing. This is comparing it to XD3 off and a Samsung LE32R74.
Kreeeee said:
Odd, it doesn't mention it supports it on the back of the box or in the manual.
I've got the LE40R74 and it looks "OK". It's not really awful, but it's not brilliant either. Looks lush for XBOX360 and SkyHD, but it really suffers on low res GC/XBOX and Wii.
Surely you mean tellys with crap component input rarther than crap tellys? Seeing as many manufacturers dont make much effort with the 'lower' input quality.Kreeeee said:
My telly, one of the popular Sammys, shows almost no difference in IQ betweeen composite & component.
I would be very interested if anybody could get there hands on both the RGB-Scart and the component cables for the Wii and do a comparison.
RGB goes through less convertion steps so "should" give better results but obviously this will all depend on the TV .
RGB goes through less convertion steps so "should" give better results but obviously this will all depend on the TV .
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I've got both the offical RGB and component cables and whilst there is hardly anything in it I'd say the component was just that little bit shaper.mrgubby said:
Again it's not just a case of which cable is best it all depends on your TV/Display and how good either of its Scart or component inputs/processing are.
For example i've got a Phanny PW6 plasma which uses plugin terminal boards for it's inputs, if I was to use the standard RGB scart board for it the picture wouldn't be too good (that terminal board is known for being poor).
But I route my RGB scart feeds through a JS RGB -> VGA box and use the VGA input on the display and that produces a really good picture from scart sources.
Either of the cables should produce a much better picture than the standard composite but I honestly don't think they is much in it between the two other than the component offers you the 480p option.
(That reminds me, I need to stick the RGB cable on MM)
I've tried my Wii on an LE32R74 samsung, an LG 32LC2DB (That went pop and was replaced by: ) and an LG 37LC3R. All of them showed a huge difference between component and composite, especially on moving/noisy scenes like all of zelda and red steel.BoomAM said:
Edit: Switchin from composite to component in all cases was like removing a fuzzy veil from the screen. Everything was noticeable clearer and more vibrant.
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Hang on, surely the difference between RGB and component is the quite major fact that RGB is interlaced, whereas the Component is progressive? Surely this should be the clincher?
Unless these new fangled HDTVs perform deinterlacing similar to Dscaler, but even still I A) haven't heard anyone mention that feature on TVs, and B) 480p native should still be better than deinterlaced 480i.
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Unless these new fangled HDTVs perform deinterlacing similar to Dscaler, but even still I A) haven't heard anyone mention that feature on TVs, and B) 480p native should still be better than deinterlaced 480i.
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It wasn't mine.BoomAM said:
I know precisely what I saw and no amount of convincing on the contrary will make me believe my eyes are broken.
Look closely at the cursor when in the menu and move it around. That's the nasty blurring effect on a very small scale. When the whole screen is moving it looks horrible. Progressive helps this immensely and also increases the colour depth and black levels to boot.
whitecrook said:
All correct. No matter how good the processing a progressive signal of at least equal quality to an interlaced one will always look superior. The component cable also carries a lot more information than a single combined composite one does. Those are the facts.
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Syph said:
that's correct
just got a component lead (official one). theres quite a difference between component and composite on my display. mind you, my sony bravia is miles better than the old crt i had on composite anyway lol.
Surely the quality depends on the size of the display you use it on?
Progressive component on my 28" JVC CRT makes a world of difference, but its more obvious in things like the web browser and pretty much every game except zelda where it gets slightly clearer but more aliased.
The biggest difference is that staring at an interlaced signal for any length of time gives me a headache and the progressive one doesnt
Progressive component on my 28" JVC CRT makes a world of difference, but its more obvious in things like the web browser and pretty much every game except zelda where it gets slightly clearer but more aliased.
The biggest difference is that staring at an interlaced signal for any length of time gives me a headache and the progressive one doesnt
I finally got my hands on a component cable and i have to say i am very impressed!
Zelda looks far better than it did on compsite, the text when you are talking is so much clearer, Wii sports is a lot better too, the colours seem to be more vibrant and everything seems so much clearer too, same for the Wii menu, all the text is readable!!!
I can probably get it looking a better when i have a fiddle with my tv setting but so far really pleased with the results!
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Zelda looks far better than it did on compsite, the text when you are talking is so much clearer, Wii sports is a lot better too, the colours seem to be more vibrant and everything seems so much clearer too, same for the Wii menu, all the text is readable!!!
I can probably get it looking a better when i have a fiddle with my tv setting but so far really pleased with the results!
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The standard composite cable on my bedroom 26" LCD was shocking with shimmering fuzzy graphics. I managed to get hold of a 3rd party Component cable, and the difference is astonishing with stable, crisp graphics.
I would suggest that anyone who can't see a difference either get their eyes checked, get the TV checked, or make sure they've correctly adjusted the settings in the Wii control panel.
I would suggest that anyone who can't see a difference either get their eyes checked, get the TV checked, or make sure they've correctly adjusted the settings in the Wii control panel.