This was kind of my point from the start RE capitalism/our economy!
Wilko goes into Administration
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This was kind of my point from the start RE capitalism/our economy!
In which case shouldn't it be easier to understand the guilt that some people feel about buying stuff from Wilkos on the cheap, if they feel somewhat responsible for "not doing enough / anything"?
It's more about the guilt of national decline, it's just an in your face representation of it, as was your point.
Guilt is only correct as a word if you have a black and white view on capitalism durr
I have a black and white view on rampant Capitalism. Guilt is fine as a word though, there are plenty of examples of person a taking advantage of person b, like with so many other things. Just because something has a lot of nuance, varying degrees of positives and negatives, doesn't make the negatives go away and someone can still feel guilty even if there is a legitimate reason for something. Especially when the legitimacy could be considered unethical.
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Some customers get very ***** with us if they try to return stuff beyond the 30 days return window (it’s til end Jan for purchases in Nov and Dec) or want to return the free pack of nappies (used a coupon) for cash.
A colleague had a customer handing him £100 to put onto a 3rd party gift card. Once the money went onto the gift card, the man wanted his money back. Tough. He thought that he could get the £100 cash and £100 on gift card. We cannot do refunds on gift cards.
Then there was the time a customer tried to get me to get a refund on a swimsuit. It had skid marks on the gusset. I refused to refund them as she took off the hygiene tape. She demanded to speak to a manager. Who said more/less same thing as me.
Some customers have been banned because of their behaviour over refunds.
Not a sentence you see very often
Have to say I don't know why you'd feel guilty either.
Guilt implies (to me) you're at fault.
Guilt would be the owners creaming off divs before the company folds.
Empathy yes. Guilt no.
Its hardly the shoppers fault its folding.
Its probably more appropriate to feel guilty that you didn't visit before because amazon was cheaper.
That's more of a contributor to those people actually losing thier jobs.
Guilt implies (to me) you're at fault.
Guilt would be the owners creaming off divs before the company folds.
Empathy yes. Guilt no.
Its hardly the shoppers fault its folding.
Its probably more appropriate to feel guilty that you didn't visit before because amazon was cheaper.
That's more of a contributor to those people actually losing thier jobs.
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Nor something you want to see again
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Beginning of this year Wilko stopped doing the lottery as their BS statement was something on the lines of not part of our business model.
It turns out Camelot weren’t impressed with Wilko’s accounts.
Signs of things to come 8 months previously
It turns out Camelot weren’t impressed with Wilko’s accounts.
Signs of things to come 8 months previously
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Also not setting up shop in retail parks like B&M etc.
People refuse to pay £1 to park but ok splashing out £50k for a new car and £3k for a personalised plate.
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The issue is why would I pay to park (and it's rarely only a quid) when Amazon will sell me something cheaper and drop it at the door. Perfect example the other day I needed some vanish carpet cleaner £7 in Tesco, less than £3 delivered from Amazon and I didn't have to deal with the ball ache that is getting in and out of the local Tesco car park.
A nice car and a plate to show off their wealth to their neighbours enriches their lives (rightly or wrongly). Paying to park, plus driving in traffic to get there, struggling to find an empty spot, hoping no-one opens their door on you new £50k car, then struggling home through traffic and using fuel to do so, makes their lives worse.
My wife still likes occasional browsing in shops. But I will do everything I can to go to an actual shop now. A few clicks and it magically appears the next day, with far less effort, less cost and giving me more time for other things
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Amazon has pretty dodgy business practices though, that's one of the reasons why it's cheaper.
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As I work in retail, I do anything to stay away from retail on my days off. At least make one day off a week retail free.
I work about 1/2 mile from a Wilko. Can see customers say “I think you should employ some Wilko staff” as sometimes we are short staffed. It’s because we are on annual leave - which is a legal requirement. Just they wait two weeks time when I’m off for almost 2 weeks…. By then those colleagues off will be back…
The only people who decide what to do after being made redundant from Wilko are the staff themselves.
They may not want to continue to work in retail, especially how Wilko have treated them and lot of abuse from customers towards Wilko staff. I heard it first hand as some shop staff shop at my work.
People who hurl abuse at shop workers esp when their jobs are going are pure and utter scum.
I work about 1/2 mile from a Wilko. Can see customers say “I think you should employ some Wilko staff” as sometimes we are short staffed. It’s because we are on annual leave - which is a legal requirement. Just they wait two weeks time when I’m off for almost 2 weeks…. By then those colleagues off will be back…
The only people who decide what to do after being made redundant from Wilko are the staff themselves.
They may not want to continue to work in retail, especially how Wilko have treated them and lot of abuse from customers towards Wilko staff. I heard it first hand as some shop staff shop at my work.
People who hurl abuse at shop workers esp when their jobs are going are pure and utter scum.
Its a right hassle to park in town. Your looking at 5 pounds for even 2-3 hours and a round trip time of 50 minutes plus the fuel.
That's probably 7 pounds + hassle + time
Vs retail park which is free and about 10 mins drive.
If councils wanted to encourage people in cars in, they'd drop parking charges. But they(ours) want to discourage far use.
Wilko`s was slightly different as it was for the majority a family run business. The story is quite interesting in itself how extremally poor advisement from a consultancy and a general total lack of investment in the firm itself. All the while the dodgy dealings of the Arora family took B&M through the roof.
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Talking of parking, my issue is about high streets losing their shops in favour of out-of-town retail parks where it's easier for shoppers to park their cars. From a mobility point of view (sensory impairment), I find it easier to get the bus to the high street. Shops moving outside of town makes it less accessible for non-drivers like myself and being a non-driver not out of choice.
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It was probably a rip off product that looked the same as the Tesco one!!!