Will humanity devolve to wearing nothing at all again and will the rise of homosexuality cause human

Dimple said:
Ageist, I'm probably fitter than most of your young men because I cycle 10 miles a day and run 3 mile a day.
Anyway, off to bed (with a woman :()
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I think the idea of your pensioner swing ball set slapping against his calves during play time might kill the mood a little. :p

Oh and Kwerk coming out as a yogurt thrower. :eek:
 
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Gay dear, who dear, me dear, yes dear :D

OP - Predicting that decent women and straight men will be wiped out is a little OTT, im sure the human population will continue procreating and reproducing into the far far future (as long as you can find someone that wants to breed with you).

This homosexuality that you speak of is not a recent thing you know, it has been going on as far back as 800 BC (or before then) according to Ancient Greek information , or recorded images of threesomes (2 men one woman) as far back as 79 BC, so i dont think you have anything to worry about long term :D
 
Bobcat said:
Gay dear, who dear, me dear, yes dear :D

OP - Predicting that decent women and straight men will be wiped out is a little OTT, im sure the human population will continue procreating and reproducing into the far far future (as long as you can find someone that wants to breed with you).

This homosexuality that you speak of is not a recent thing you know, it has been going on as far back as 800 BC (or before then) according to Ancient Greek information , or recorded images of threesomes (2 men one woman) as far back as 79 BC, so i dont think you have anything to worry about long term :D
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How about some Pompeii graffiti?

From the Bar/Brothel of Innulus and Papilio: "Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men's behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!"

From Herculaneum (a bar/inn joined to the maritime baths): "Two friends were here. While they were, they had bad service in every way from a guy named Epaphroditus. They threw him out and spent 105 and half sestertii most agreeably on whores."

From just outside the Vesuvius gate: "Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place."

From the peristyle of the Tavern of Verecundus: "Restitutus says: 'Restituta, take off your tunic, please, and show us your hairy privates.'"

From Herculaneum (a bar/inn joined to the maritime baths): "Apelles the chamberlain with Dexter, a slave of Caesar, ate here most agreeably and had a screw at the same time."

From the basilica: "O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed that you have not already collapsed in ruin.
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http://io9.com/5929627/the-graffiti-of-pompeii-was-downright-raunchy-and-absolutely-hilarious
 
Jono8 said:
It does not deserve any respect as it is factually inaccurate.
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Considering the gif that the person you're replying to quoted as an example of the OP's post getting the respect it deserves, I'm almost sure that they were saying that it deserved no respect.
 
First part of question lolwut

Second part of question...

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Look at the greeks/Romans, anyone else back in the day, they all loved it!
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This is simply not true. At best the nobility of ancient Greece and Rome were bisexual, but the exclusive homosexuality of today would have been considered to be odd. There is no compelling evidence that it was practised outside the nobility, and we're also aware there were laws which prohibited it in certain places and times. We also know that the men on the "receiving end" were often the object of ridicule and social stigma, because they were considered to be taking the role of a woman.

In short, the sexuality of the classical period was certainly different to our own, but that is about all we can say.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
This is simply not true. At best the nobility of ancient Greece and Rome were bisexual, but the exclusive homosexuality of today would have been considered to be odd. There is no compelling evidence that it was practised outside the nobility, and we're also aware there were laws which prohibited it in certain places and times. We also know that the men on the "receiving end" were often the object of ridicule and social stigma, because they were considered to be taking the role of a woman.

In short, the sexuality of the classical period was certainly different to our own, but that is about all we can say.
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There was no specific concept of homosexuality in Ancient Greece nor Rome...in fact what we would call homosexuality was quite rare, the most common practice relating to homosexuality was Pederasty..sexual relationships between Adult males and Adolescent boys. Something that is illegal in most countries today.

Homosexuality wouldn't have been considered odd simply because Ancient Greeks did not have the same social concept of sexual orientation, sexual relationships were not a matter of stigma, however the roles to which each participant would identify could set their social standing, with the Masculine gender type taking social precedence over the Feminine gender type. This would have been seen as a normal social state for those involved.
 
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Asim, maybe you are just trolling but if not then please know you are wrong in every way. Maybe you just don't have any gay friends so your views can be explained by ignorance?

Society's increasing acceptance of homosexuality will have very little effect on the birth rate and the human population is huge and growing fast in any case.

You views on masculinity and gay people are ignorant at best. Here's some info:

- being gay is not a choice - people don't choose to be gay because 'it didn't work' with girls.
- gay does not equal camp - there are gay guys who are not camp and straight guys who are (e.g. David Walliams).
- there's nothing wrong with being camp
- there is nothing wrong with girls liking guys who are not masculine in the old-fashioned sense of the word

You really need to start living in the 21st century.

Also, for the historical argument, who cares if societies in the past did/did not allow or accept homosexual behaviour. Most societies in the past were very racist and sexist, does that mean we should be now? Is being racist and sexist the 'natural' state of humanity? Do people really believe that there is a big conspiracy by gay people to pretend that it isn't a choice?
 
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AGD said:
- being gay is not a choice - people don't choose to be gay because 'it didn't work' with girls.
- gay does not equal camp - there are gay guys who are not camp and straight guys who are (e.g. David Walliams).
- there's nothing wrong with being camp
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Just out of curiosity then, is being camp a choice?
 
I doubt many people actively set out to be camp; I do wonder in the case of some camp gay men though if it isn't something which they subconsciously do so as to be seen as belonging to a group by associating with their mannerisms. Once you've acted some way for so long it becomes normal for you.

Or maybe I'm over analysing, and some gay men (and some straight!) are just camp as Christmas from the off.

 
Wouldn't anyone think differently of faggotry if they realised that Heracles was famous for his ability to seduce and satisfy men?
 
gillywibble said:
Why? Genuinely interested.

I didn't know either but it's not a surprise to me.
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Just didn't fit the mental picture I had.

Anyway being that he is 'Bi' rather than 'Gay' changes things a little, I find that a little less surprising.


Tefal said:
My sheer manliness?
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Joking aside I think there's probably an element of truth there.
 
AGD said:
Asim, maybe you are just trolling but if not then please know you are wrong in every way. Maybe you just don't have any gay friends so your views can be explained by ignorance?

Society's increasing acceptance of homosexuality will have very little effect on the birth rate and the human population is huge and growing fast in any case.

You views on masculinity and gay people are ignorant at best. Here's some info:

- being gay is not a choice - people don't choose to be gay because 'it didn't work' with girls.
- gay does not equal camp - there are gay guys who are not camp and straight guys who are (e.g. David Walliams).
- there's nothing wrong with being camp
- there is nothing wrong with girls liking guys who are not masculine in the old-fashioned sense of the word

You really need to start living in the 21st century.

Also, for the historical argument, who cares if societies in the past did/did not allow or accept homosexual behaviour. Most societies in the past were very racist and sexist, does that mean we should be now? Is being racist and sexist the 'natural' state of humanity? Do people really believe that there is a big conspiracy by gay people to pretend that it isn't a choice?
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I agree with almost everything you say but your first point about it not being a choice, i dont think its as straight cut as that i think it can be a choice as well. Even though there's some evidence suggesting there maybe some signs of our sexuality in our genetic makeup but there still is no definitive proof that a "gay gene" exists. I can believe that some people do have this genetic makeup difference but i dont believe every single gay person has it.

Evolution is the adaption of a living thing over time to it's environment and conditions so it can survive and continue the cycle of life, having a gay gene would totally go against that. If 99% of the world population had the "gay gene", we would be in serious trouble wouldn't we? How would you pass on a "gay gene" anyway?

It's not wrong to be homosexual but i still say it's not right either, just accept it happens. Being straight is the natural order of life.
 
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