Will the Mac end up becoming un-cool?

Faustus said:
Whatever happened to individuality? When I was young I wanted to be different and so did lots of my friends.
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Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't need to follow me, you don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves! You're all individuals!
The Crowd (in unison): Yes! We're all individuals!
Brian: You're all different!
The Crowd (in unison): Yes, we are all different!
Man in Crowd: I'm not.
Another Man: Shhh!
 
ilikedthecore said:
Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't need to follow me, you don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves! You're all individuals!
The Crowd (in unison): Yes! We're all individuals!
Brian: You're all different!
The Crowd (in unison): Yes, we are all different!
Man in Crowd: I'm not.
Another Man: Shhh!
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I was the little boy in the Emperors New Clothes.
 
vonhelmet said:
I bet half of them are running Windows :/
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Actually it's a pretty old photo. It was doing the rounds on the web long before Steve Jobs showed it in one of his keynotes.

Apparently it was for some course that more-or-less stated you'd need a Mac (but could struggle along with a PC if you so wished) as it was based around applications for it or something like that :confused:
 
Faustus said:
There must be some reason why the rest of the country have to subsidise parents and their children but can't remember why. Could you enlighten me?
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Who says I spent the 'subsidises' on my Apple equipment?

Besides, would you prefer students to waste it going out every night of the week? ;)
 
Faustus said:
No I would prefer it if people paid their own way in the world like I have had to do instead of expecting the rest of society to subsidise them.
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Your assuming that the money spent on the education of these people isn't compensated from the additional money they earn when they graduate.

From what i've read, the people who do Medicine/Vetinary and Engineering earn far far far more than what they would have anyway.

PS: Im paying my own way, nothing like a job to purchase my mac equipment eh?

PPS: Back to the point of the thread!
 
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Concorde Rules said:
Your assuming that the money spent on the education of these people isn't compensated from the additional money they earn when they graduate.

From what i've read, the people who do Medicine/Vetinary and Engineering earn far far far more than what they would have anyway.

PS: Im paying my own way, nothing like a job to purchase my mac equipment eh?

PPS: Back to the point of the thread!
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No I understand that entirely, but I think the word you are looking for in that quote is "THEY EARN". Therefore we are subsidising them in order for them to earn mega bucks? How does that work then?
 
Faustus said:
No I understand that entirely, but I think the word you are looking for in that quote is "THEY EARN". Therefore we are subsidising them in order for them to earn mega bucks? How does that work then?
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This thread really isn't the place for this but using your logic then surely the public school system is doing exactly the same.

Your taxes are educating other peoples kids so they can earn money themselves.

Unfortunately without figures to form a cost-benefit analysis we can't work out if it's a benefit for the country as a whole.

Anyway, back to the thread :p
 
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Nexus said:
I think one could argue that they already are somewhat uncool.

I got my first Mac in 2002 just before the iPod explosion happened. I bought it for the range of programmes it had, as I'd been using them at Uni on my degree course and needed one for home. The machines obviously have for over a decade now also been very nice to look at and many of the windows equivalents have obviously somewhat caught up, but I still prefer a Mac.

They have grown so big now thanks to the success of their other products, coupled with the fact that most people after a home computer now will buy a laptop and so they want a nice looking laptop. It almost seems that most people who could afford to buy a Mac laptop will get one, unless they aren't open to change, prefer something better value or just don't like Apple.

So it used to be that when you went into a coffee shop and saw somebody on a Mac laptop, it was quite rare. I can also see why back then, some Mac users would have been quite friendly with each other... like "Oh hey, you use a Mac too! What's that, the Powerbook huh?"

Now though, when you go into the same coffee shop, nearly everybody will be on a Mac, many just trying to pose.

I think it's in that sense that it's lost it's cool, as people seem to think that having one makes you an instantly cool person, but it doesn't.

The other thing I don't like about what Apple has become is the whole people who pray at the church of Jobs thing. For example, I used to work with a guy, in his mid thirties, who funnily enough fitted the stereotype perfectly with the black rimmed glasses and polo neck jumpers! He buys everything new that Apple releases instantly, he also harps on about wanting to be at Macworld and Developers Conferences and such.

Being a PC Geek is seriously uncool.
As Apple has or had quite a cool image, I think many people thought they could basically be a geek, but be quite cool. However, that's gone now and you've just got the same computer geeks thinking they are cool with one up on any other person who uses PCs.

Yes I use Macs myself, I prefer them, but I don't like the way some people act about them.
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Now your the type of Mac guy I could talk to, I will try and remember you when I pick one up some time and/or install OSX for some fun.
 
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bloodiedathame said:
My point is that is is pretty rare to force quit in OSX and an almost hourly occurrence on any MS OS I've used.
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What a ridiculous statement to make. Are you using Windows 95 or something?

I use Win 7 on my laptop and it goes weeks without a proper reboot yet works fine. Before you start screaming Windows fan boy I couldn't care less what OS people use, I use linux regularly for a desktop at work and server type use, Windows as mentioned on my laptop and I have used OS X on a couple of occasions aswell. I think OS X looks nice and is fine to use, I wouldn't take it upon my self to start Windows bashing just to make it look good though.

Any modern operating system is stable enough to survive programs crashing without falling over itself.
 
KoR said:
Talk about $$$ though. There must be 400 people in that room, so probably half a million quid of Macs minimum there. And they've probably all got iPhones/iPads/iPods. With all that plus upgrades and software, wouldn't surprise me if there is £1 million of Apple kit in that room.
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Doubt it, unless that is in Apples offices....

Either a set up by Apple themselves or someone taking the pee themselves. How many students take laptops into classes and how many have Macs....

And as a student I know it's low percentages and at max only half will have Macs (in the US, in certain classes)...:p
 
Who thinks Steve Jobs is cool? He can come across as a bit of a jackass sometimes with his comment but I'd have a beer with him.

What will happen to Apple should he have to retire? I think the industry would be a lot less interesting without Apple, and it would be a shame if they turned into just another Asus or Dell.
 
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