Will you be buying Apple Vision Pro once it gets released in the UK.?

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Now that I‘m 100% sure Quest 3 just isn’t good enough for me I’m thinking of buying Apple Vision Pro once it‘s released here in UK.
I will give it a go at Apple Store and if i like it I’ll buy one for further testing.
For me to keep it it has to be free of the issues with optics I’m seeing with quest 3 and those are:
Internal reflections of pancake lenses in high contrast content
Reduced brightness and sharpness near the edges of the displays
Chromatic aberration
Bad black levels and contrast (this one is rather obvious that oled displays will eliminate completely).
I also don’t wan’t to see any kind of distortion from lenses so in other words for around £3500 starting price I expect perfection in display/optics department.
If there are software bugs and teething issues I’m willing to accept those.
Just to be clear I’m not saying the Quest 3 is a bad headset especially for the price just that it is not good enough for me and my use case.
While I like VR games there is nothing worthwhile for me apart from half life Alyx and I finished that multiple times including all the better mods so my main use case is video watching and desktop use in mixed reality.

 

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How about the Varjo xr4 instead? Looks like it has amazing specs and it is a pc headset which includes controllers

At that price I will not accept lcd displays.
Also I want standalone device as like I said before I will be using it for video viewing and desktop usage in mixed reality.
This was my intended use case for Quest 3 and gaming was just a bonus feature.

 

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I only do old sims, so it's not really worth it for me.

Oh yeah it will absolutely depend on the use case.
To be honest I bought Quest 3 as a poor man’s Vision Pro but it didn’t do great in that regard lol.

 

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and it won't cos Meta is more focused on monopolising the market than producing high quality headsets... their vision is to own VR/MR

And that’s good as the more people use VR the better, the issue is that we don’t get good PCVR games anymore.
I gave Asgards Wrath 2 a go and after 3 minutes I turned it off.
The quality of the second game on Quest 3 versus the first one on PC is night and day.
Such a shame they didn’t release it on PC this time.

 

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and, I just don't like apple as a brand.

Fair enough but me and my partner have iPhones, Apple Watches, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro and Apple TV so Vision Pro will fit well in the ecosystem.

 

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Lots of Apple haters around here lol.

 

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I like Apple but there’s no way I’m spending that sort of money on a first gen product.

I didn’t think I would even think about buying one but after returning so many Quest 3 headsets and being disappointed every time I’m ready to pay the price.
The lenses and displays have to be perfect for me to keep it though.
Not sure what my partner will say about that thought so will have to slowly put the idea in her head.

 

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hell yeah !



I'm a millionaire of course i will !

NOT !!

It’s fine just get a credit card.

 

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So it looks like I’m the only one around here who might be getting one lol.
The price is ridiculous I totally agree but looking at other high end headsets it seems to be better value with more and better hardware packed into it.
And as always with Apple the build quality and materials will be top notch.

 

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No chance I'm chucking £1k on headset, never mind nearly £3k.

It will probably start at over 3k lol.

 

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indeed, i dont know why people are even comparing it to the quest headsets to be honest for me the meta feature set blows it out of the water...... for 1/7th of the price.

am sure it will do some things well, but not the things which are most important to me.

I’m comparing it to Quest 3 because I was mainly using it for video viewing and desktop use in mixed reality.

 

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Are there any 3D movies (films) higher than 1080p?
If using it just to watch 4K HDR movies when you don’t have the space for a 77” OLED then that’s possibly a use case

Thanks to Apple there will be.
Both Apple TV and Disney will have 3D movies.
Apple Vision Pro will have 150 3D movies available on launch day on Apple TV and those supposed to be 4K Dolby Vision versions encoded in MV-HEVC (Multiview High Efficiency Video Coding)

 

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do you know if these will also be released on normal apple TV for those of us with 3D TVs? it would be nice to dust off my old tv glasses, or is it only for the 3D headset?.

No idea, I didn’t look into it.

 

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The reviews are out and according to The Verge the headset suffers from chromatic aberration and lens reflections so it looks like it’s a NO from me.
Very disappointing.

 

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If that's true then that is really disappointing, especially as the Quest Pro and Q3 don't suffer from that.

Quest 3 absolutely does suffer from chromatic aberration and very heavy lens reflections.
I know as I had 5 of them.
I was just hoping that Apple can ged right of those issues using higher quality optics but it seems not.

 

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Not noticed that myself, and I'm very sensitive to it. But everyone's experiences are different. The worst headset for glare and reflections for me was the Index. Very distracting.

Lens reflections are very visible on high contrast content, and chromatic aberration (maybe it’s not exactly that but there is very visible colour splitting) is visible at the top and bottom of the displays.

 

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Looks like I’ll be waiting until optics improve some more so see you all in 10 years time.

 

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you really are missing out. can you not just adjust your expectation a bit? your choice of course but for instance I have a 70inch TV with surround sound and 3D now. i still enjoyed our 21 inch colour set 3 channels when I was a kid (hell I remember when we only had a B&W)

Not for the price. I will still give it a go at Apple Store but I’m now 80% sure I will not be getting it.

 

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You're better off with a Quest 3.

Yeah but there just aren’t good VR games for me.
There are few like Half Life Alyx and Lone Echo but I finished those many times.
Asgards Wrath 2 was super disappointing and when I started it I turned it off after 3 minutes seeing the terrible graphics.
VR mods while cool idea just don’t work well enough as there are always bugs, graphical glitches and so on.
Most Quest games look like mobile games from 10 years ago.
So all I’m left with is movie watching and desktop use.
I actually bought Xreal Air and I’m happy with those for my use as I can watch 3D movies at full resolution on oled displays while the Quest 3 is sitting in the box unused.

 

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Sim racing or flying is where vr really shines for me, the sooner the 5090 releases the better as the crystal has the display it just needs a more powerful gpu to take full advantage of it.

Yeah I agree but I’m not into those and Quest isn’t best for sim racing anyway.
There is a lot of detail loss when going at high speed due to compression.