Wimbledon 2016
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Soldato
Hope Federer can win it outright.
Caporegime
This is a braindead performance from Murray so far. He's tried very few sliced drop shots today, which has played in to Tsonga's hands, and seems intent on setting up Tsonga for winners rather than going for winners himself.
Broken again by playing the ball straight at Tsonga, WTF is he doing?
Broken again by playing the ball straight at Tsonga, WTF is he doing?
Soldato
Never easy with Murray is it..
Tsonga serving for the set having been a break down.
Tsonga serving for the set having been a break down.
Caporegime
His head's gone again by the looks of it. As soon as Tsonga went 2-0 behind and relaxed he started hitting clean winners and Murray reverted to his defensive worst.
Soldato
Arguing with the umpire now. Get your bloody head together.
Caporegime
Come on Tsonga.
Soldato
3-0 Murray, soon snapped out of it.
4-0, that should be that.
5-0.. Bagel?
4-0, that should be that.
5-0.. Bagel?
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Caporegime
Tsonga couldn't maintain that level of tennis but really not impressed with Murray tonight.
He showed the sort of tennis he can play when the pressure's off against Kyrgios and there's no reason he can't play the same way against better opponents, he just doesn't seem to even try.
Anyway, Murray to beat Birdman, Raonic to slaughter Federer and then beat Murray 3-1 in the final.
He showed the sort of tennis he can play when the pressure's off against Kyrgios and there's no reason he can't play the same way against better opponents, he just doesn't seem to even try.
Anyway, Murray to beat Birdman, Raonic to slaughter Federer and then beat Murray 3-1 in the final.
I think Federer will beat Raonic. However its going to be a very tight one. Raonic hasn't got a ground stroke game and neither has Federer at the moment hahaha However he is improving each match.
Murray will easily get past the bird.
Murray will easily get past the bird.
Caporegime
Just thinking, has anyone ever reached all of the Slam finals and lost them all in the same year?
If Murray loses this final, he'll make sure to lose early at the US open. He'd be bonkers to bring that up on himself.
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Jesus, I don't watch a lot of women's tennis and Vesnina is the perfect example of why. She must the single most irritating to watch(well hear) tennis players I've ever seen. Ahh-yaaaa, almost every hit.
Someone who is involved in making the rules just needs to ban excessive noise making, starting handing out 5k fines every other game and they'll shut up almost instantly. Something wrong with tennis when a player is simply too annoying to watch because of the sound they make.
Some men are nearly as bad, certain as bad as most women but Vesnina, first time I've watched her is this tournament and I want to throttle her already.
Murray is one of the more irritating male players when it comes to making stupid noises as you hit.
Someone who is involved in making the rules just needs to ban excessive noise making, starting handing out 5k fines every other game and they'll shut up almost instantly. Something wrong with tennis when a player is simply too annoying to watch because of the sound they make.
Some men are nearly as bad, certain as bad as most women but Vesnina, first time I've watched her is this tournament and I want to throttle her already.
Murray is one of the more irritating male players when it comes to making stupid noises as you hit.
I nearly always watch with the sound off - obviously there's Nadal but the men's game isn't as bad for grunting as the women's game, it's laughable at times.
Konta's bounce of the ball prior to serving is seriously annoying.
48 minutes for that last match, you can see why women should have equal prize money...
Konta's bounce of the ball prior to serving is seriously annoying.
48 minutes for that last match, you can see why women should have equal prize money...
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I try to watch on mute but, I don't know, sport without noise just feels so odd to me. Even if I hate the commentary the noise of the ball, scores, whatever is going on, screams of joy/anger after a great/bad shot, it's all part of it. Without the sound I can't concentrate or get into a game(of any sport really).
On the equality pay side of things the length of the game isn't as important, it's the physicality of 5 sets. You can see someone utterly dominate for 2 sets but then fall apart and lose the it all. 5 sets gives time for comebacks, 3 sets just creates very different types of matches.
1 bad game can cause a break and lead to one set down and best of 3 means 1 bad game has effectively too big an effect on the result when it comes to the womens game.
More people watch the men's game, the men's games are also much longer and much more exciting as best of 5 create far more varied matches and far more excitement. There is no way women should get the same money.
It would be like lets say female lawyers saying they should get the same money as men, but they can work 3 days a week instead of 5. Yes that doesn't quite work because you train more than you actually play but broadly speaking the point is they don't provide the same games, the same value for money, the same excitement or competition and shouldn't be paid the same.
Right now women are massively overpaid for the revenue they generate and the games they produce, men are incredibly unfairly rewarded in tennis as a result.
Another way to think about it, if mens tennis stopped tomorrow, probably 80% of the money would disappear and women would have a massive pay cut. If women's tennis stopped tomorrow, 20% of the money would go and men would get more money... as 20% less is spread over give or take 50% less players, so money per player increases.
On the equality pay side of things the length of the game isn't as important, it's the physicality of 5 sets. You can see someone utterly dominate for 2 sets but then fall apart and lose the it all. 5 sets gives time for comebacks, 3 sets just creates very different types of matches.
1 bad game can cause a break and lead to one set down and best of 3 means 1 bad game has effectively too big an effect on the result when it comes to the womens game.
More people watch the men's game, the men's games are also much longer and much more exciting as best of 5 create far more varied matches and far more excitement. There is no way women should get the same money.
It would be like lets say female lawyers saying they should get the same money as men, but they can work 3 days a week instead of 5. Yes that doesn't quite work because you train more than you actually play but broadly speaking the point is they don't provide the same games, the same value for money, the same excitement or competition and shouldn't be paid the same.
Right now women are massively overpaid for the revenue they generate and the games they produce, men are incredibly unfairly rewarded in tennis as a result.
Another way to think about it, if mens tennis stopped tomorrow, probably 80% of the money would disappear and women would have a massive pay cut. If women's tennis stopped tomorrow, 20% of the money would go and men would get more money... as 20% less is spread over give or take 50% less players, so money per player increases.
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