Windows 7 or 8 for new desktop?

I'm running Windows 8 here just fine by the way, had maybe one BSOD the whole time I've had it. Biggest complaint I have is that the Task Manager no longer always comes to the foreground properly like it did in 7.

The start UI is pretty much irrelevant if you just search for what you want, really not that different.
 
Put it in. If it works they are ok, if it doesn't then you need to do what Glaucus says.
Easiest way around it is to just buy ram that your mobo manufacturer recommends. They all have lists recommending compatible ram for whichever mobo you have.
Its sometimes more expensive doing it that way but it is easier.

Sometimes a new type comes out that your mobo can handle but wont work. In these rare cases its a bios flash you need not the volt bchange. Though granted you could probably get away with it by changing things like voltage.

Just always make sure you have the latest version of bios and most problems are averted.
 
Going back to the windows 7 or 8 debate, I thought I would add something that would never have crossed my mind a couple of days ago.

I have windows 8 on my pc and have used it for quite a while now so am what you would call used to it.

Yesterday I put windows 7 pro on my sons pc after building it. I couldn't believe how antiquated it felt. I have to admit when I first got windows 8 I considered going back to 7 but perservered. Now I wouldn't have it any other way. It really is head and shoulders above 7.
 
Hola, thought I'd update y'all :).

New 16GB replacement RAM arrived :cool: and the system runs like a dream, not a single problem or crash on Windows 8.

On Window's 8, I don't think it's brilliant, it's clearly an operating system designed for touch screen / tablets, I don't think it's brilliant for a desktop, however, I'm still getting used to it and it is very fast ;).
 
Glad it's working now:).I'm still weary of people who slate an OS completely. I don't like the metro/app stuff on win 8 but it's perfectly stable and speedy. People still slate Vista yet I'm still running a Vista 64bit computer, it's been going strong for about 5 years and have had maybe 3 or 4 BSOD's in that time, most of which were graphics driver issues.
 
I did have lots of BSODs on Windows 8 on my laptop when I first upgraded to it from Windows 7, turned out to be the graphics drivers, however it is then I learned that the Safe Mode for Windows 8 is terrible, one issue that I still have with the OS. That laptop is running Windows 7 at the moment, but it's more personal preference than pure dislike for Windows 8.

When I reinstalled Windows 8 from scratch on the same laptop I didn't have the BSOD issues.

I'll probably get a new ssd next month for my main PC and may well try Windows 8 again when I do that. The thing abouit the Start Screen search is that it's great for searching for a program you know the name of, but if you cannot remember the program name then you don't have an easy list to search through, unlike the old Start Menu. (Start8 ftw)

I run Windows 7 on most of my computers these days (or XP on the really old ones), but that's due to personal preference. New licenses should go withj Windows 8.

And yes, Vista runs solidly generally, don't often get Blue Screens on that either, however it is so slow on hardware that runs 7 fine that it is not very helpful. MS had some good ideas with Vista, but they needed more tweaking and refinement to make it better, which basically they did to give us Windows 7.
 
Glad it's working now:).I'm still weary of people who slate an OS completely. I don't like the metro/app stuff on win 8 but it's perfectly stable and speedy. People still slate Vista yet I'm still running a Vista 64bit computer, it's been going strong for about 5 years and have had maybe 3 or 4 BSOD's in that time, most of which were graphics driver issues.

People jump on bandwagons, apart from the Metro start screen the Windows is pretty much the same. It is quicker than Windows 7 and for me more stable. People exaggerate things like it is a completely different OS and everything is Metro based.

Like yourself Vista worked fine for me as well, the only one I had a problem with was Windows ME, had all sorts of issues with that one!
 
People jump on bandwagons, apart from the Metro start screen the Windows is pretty much the same. It is quicker than Windows 7 and for me more stable. People exaggerate things like it is a completely different OS and everything is Metro based.

Like yourself Vista worked fine for me as well, the only one I had a problem with was Windows ME, had all sorts of issues with that one!

People who say it is pretty much the same, probaly have the Start8 program installed, which they have configured in such a way that allows them to completely circumnavigate the Metro UI and all these 'apps' which Microsoft has tried to foist upon purchasers of new computers (cos nobody else in their right mind would opt for Windows 8). In fact, anyone who is using a mouse/keyboard PC, and doesn't have Start8 installed thus circumnavigating all the absolute ****** that MS is trying to force down our throats, and still says Windows 8 is good.....is mental and would probably say that dog turd sandwiches were better than the ploughman's cheese n pickle ones they got before.

"after 3 months eating dog turd n mayonaisse butties, going back to cheese n pickle just seems so 1980's.....could never go back me!"
 
People who say it is pretty much the same, probaly have the Start8 program installed, which they have configured in such a way that allows them to completely circumnavigate the Metro UI and all these 'apps' which Microsoft has tried to foist upon purchasers of new computers (cos nobody else in their right mind would opt for Windows 8). In fact, anyone who is using a mouse/keyboard PC, and doesn't have Start8 installed thus circumnavigating all the absolute ****** that MS is trying to force down our throats, and still says Windows 8 is good.....is mental and would probably say that dog turd sandwiches were better than the ploughman's cheese n pickle ones they got before.

"after 3 months eating dog turd n mayonaisse butties, going back to cheese n pickle just seems so 1980's.....could never go back me!"

I do not use Start8 or any other 3rd party app and I never use Metro UI, I exit out of it on first boot and never see it again.

I use a mouse/KB and Windows 8 is 95% the same as Windows 7 in general usage. I use ZERO metro Apps. I use NOTHING from the Store.

Windows 8 forces NOTHING on me. I am not forced to install anything, use any 'apps' or otherwise.

You are spouting tripe and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Windows 8 provides superior multiple monitor support and is generally better all round under the hood.
 
I do not use Start8 or any other 3rd party app and I never use Metro UI, I exit out of it on first boot and never see it again.

I use a mouse/KB and Windows 8 is 95% the same as Windows 7 in general usage. I use ZERO metro Apps. I use NOTHING from the Store.

Windows 8 forces NOTHING on me. I am not forced to install anything, use any 'apps' or otherwise.

You are spouting tripe and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Windows 8 provides superior multiple monitor support and is generally better all round under the hood.

I'm the same since I go to the old desktop UI most of the time,I use Metro to access my games,software when I need too(less then a second to right click in left corner is it hard guys?) added some stuff on taskbar,have it all organised in both Metro(column wise) and the old desktop UI,still a die hard keyboard and mouse user here(proud of that and nothing better for gaming lol).

In some ways Metro is more efficient then the old Start menu and I can appreciate that,I know where all my stuff is exactly.

I don't use the Metro applications much either,sometimes I browse store to see what's new and available etc but normally I just download stuff the old fashioned way from old desktop UI via my browser just like Win7,Vista,XP,98,95 etc....


Personallly YOU DON'T need the old Start menu button,I don't know why some users can't get use without one unless they can't be bothered to organise their old desktop and Metro(why make it hard for yourself),however if you find it easier with one fine but just remember things don't last forever so expect changes down the road yet again.

I have heard ALL the excuses on why you need one,fact is half a dozen Linux users don't have one so its not just Win8,infact I use plenty of different operating systems with and without one,it's not hard to adapt or organise the OS in question, some members here could learn and try not to throw cheap insults at others members here(especially to the members that don't use a third pary button mod).


Problem is quite simple really, some users expect OS to stay the same and nothing to change,Start button had to go sooner or later and as you know nothing stays the same forever so get over it, if don't like Win8 or the button missing fine but don't expect Microsoft to keep to the Win95 to Win7 UI forever since you are not being realistic and also try to bitch/moan without throwing cheap insults at other members here(MatTheCat you should know better) and at the same time be constructive.


Anyway like always I adapt and can use any OS that comes my way either on Windows or Linux,if I don't like it fine I won't use it,its that simple .
As it stands Win8 is pretty good for a first hybrid OS IMHO,sure improvements will happen,but then look at how Windows evolved over the decades from the early days.

Change can be a scarey thing for some people,especially when they don't like something,I'll say I never had a perfect OS since always something I did not like and that includes all my Linux and Windows distros,ie Ubuntu,Win7 etc..I just adapt and make the OS work for me best I can,ones I hate I avoid.

In fact, anyone who is using a mouse/keyboard PC, and doesn't have Start8 installed thus circumnavigating all the absolute ****** that MS is trying to force down our throats, and still says Windows 8 is good.....is mental and would probably say that dog turd sandwiches were better than the ploughman's cheese n pickle ones they got before.

That's what I mean by cheap insults,again you have a choice you don't have to use any Microsoft OS and even if you do still have plenty of choices.
Btw if that was in other forum sites I know you would have got a warning by a Mod for that insulting statement
Remember nobody is forced to use an OS it's your choice(work environment excluded since it's your job/choice).

I look forward to Win9,10 etc....
I wonder what people will moan about in Win9,10,11 ,lol book my front seat ;) .
 
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People who say it is pretty much the same, probaly have the Start8 program installed, which they have configured in such a way that allows them to completely circumnavigate the Metro UI and all these 'apps' which Microsoft has tried to foist upon purchasers of new computers (cos nobody else in their right mind would opt for Windows 8). In fact, anyone who is using a mouse/keyboard PC, and doesn't have Start8 installed thus circumnavigating all the absolute ****** that MS is trying to force down our throats, and still says Windows 8 is good.....is mental and would probably say that dog turd sandwiches were better than the ploughman's cheese n pickle ones they got before.

"after 3 months eating dog turd n mayonaisse butties, going back to cheese n pickle just seems so 1980's.....could never go back me!"

Absolute nonsense. I pin the programs I use daily to my taskbar and only ever go into the start screen if I need anything else. These Metro apps don't bloody magically start running themselves, they only run if you click on them. I have no need for them so I don't use them, simple as that really.

People getting a bit too worked up with a new start screen, making it out as if the desktop has been taken away as well and become all metro along with every program invented for Windows.
 
Absolute nonsense. I pin the programs I use daily to my taskbar and only ever go into the start screen if I need anything else. These Metro apps don't bloody magically start running themselves, they only run if you click on them. I have no need for them so I don't use them, simple as that really.

How nice for you that you just pin all your fav programs to Start Bar. But I dont. I dont want to and I dont need to. I want to use Windows just like I always used it. Why change? Why have a surgeon rewire all the nevrves in your arm so that your brain has to relearn how to use it all again, only to end up no better off than you were before the surgeon tampered it with to begin with?

Fact is, without Start 8, Windows 8 would be a major pain in the ringpiece for many. This is why Microsoft are putting a Start button back into Windows in the 8.1 update. Probably though, Microsoft will still want users to navigate from the Metro screen upon boot up. For this reason, I will stick to start 8 which allows me never to set eyes on that Damn Metro fail of an interface

I do not use Start8 or any other 3rd party app and I never use Metro UI, I exit out of it on first boot and never see it again.

I use a mouse/KB and Windows 8 is 95% the same as Windows 7 in general usage. I use ZERO metro Apps. I use NOTHING from the Store.

Windows 8 forces NOTHING on me. I am not forced to install anything, use any 'apps' or otherwise.

You are spouting tripe and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Windows 8 provides superior multiple monitor support and is generally better all round under the hood.

If I am spouting tripe, why are the default programs that Windows 8 is set to use to open various file types, either the nasty n horrible Metro apps, or apps that Microsoft wants you to give them (or someone else) money for?

Yes, the end user can disable all these, but why should we have to? If i install Winamp, and configure it to open all my mp3 files, why does Windows 8 still want to impose XBox Music or whatever on me? And it keeps going on like that.

and I do have an idea what I am talking about, as I am talking about my own personal experience with Windows 8, I have a pretty good understanding and knowledge of my own personal experience, you see?.....

NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!
 
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If i install Winamp, and configure it to open all my mp3 files

It does.

why does Windows 8 still want to impose XBox Music or whatever on me?

It does not.

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Mmhhhm yeah....bloody Windows 8, FORCING me to use applications when I open certain file types. Not giving me ANY options at all and leaving me have to fiddle with things at Registry level!!!! I SO WISH Windows 8 would let me choose which application to open my music files in.......:rolleyes:


You are clearly doing something wrong and are incapable of accepting some change. Why don't you just stick with Windows 3.1?
 
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I will tell you however, that if you are not operating a tablet or other touchscreen device, steer clear of Windows 8. Aside from the absolutely retarded layout of practically everything, such as; app screens that like to impose themselves on you offering no back back button; desktop not as a 'shell' but as an 'app', which means if you are into gaming, then that will make the likes of Steam an app within an app etc....the list really does go on and on. Windows 8 at this time, suffers from a very high level of bugs and issues. I suffered one app crash too many last night, from which there was no recovery except for a shutdown and restart.....and then get this; often Windows 8 would reboot, loading up the same crashed program in its same frozen state.....I mean...seriously GTF outta here!

Seriously what a croc of crap.

I have a keyboard/mouse desktop and I use Windows 8 for development, graphics and gaming. I don't have any 3rd party apps, or use any metro apps.

I've not had 1 blue screen yet, or application hangs.

I have, IIS, MySQL, MS SQL and Visual Studio 2012 running about. The desktop is deffo not an app, and Steam don't run as an app within an app.

Both Metro and Desktop are alternative front ends to interface with the underlying OS.
 
How nice for you that you just pin all your fav programs to Start Bar. But I dont. I dont want to and I dont need to. I want to use Windows just like I always used it. Why change? Why have a surgeon rewire all the nevrves in your arm so that your brain has to relearn how to use it all again, only to end up no better off than you were before the surgeon tampered it with to begin with?

Fact is, without Start 8, Windows 8 would be a major pain in the ringpiece for many. This is why Microsoft are putting a Start button back into Windows in the 8.1 update. Probably though, Microsoft will still want users to navigate from the Metro screen upon boot up. For this reason, I will stick to start 8 which allows me never to set eyes on that Damn Metro fail of an interface

I think you need to calm down mate, only Windows we are talking about and you are getting a bit too boosted about this. How is Windows fundamentally different to before? All that has changed is how to start an application.

As for Windows 8.1, yes there is now a start button but you do realise all that button does is to take you back to the tile start screen? The Metro interface appears when I start my comp up and I never go into it again, things change in life. Either deal with it or go and use something else, simple as that really.
 
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