Windows 7 without a browser? Get one here...
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Does in only work in Vista and W7?
Just tried to test it on my laptop at work running XP and when I double click it I just see a notepad window with the line of code as normal.
Do I fail?
Edit - ignore me, it works now. I just had a fail moment.
Just tried to test it on my laptop at work running XP and when I double click it I just see a notepad window with the line of code as normal.
Do I fail?
Edit - ignore me, it works now. I just had a fail moment.
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Thats what i will do, i will just download IE8 drop it on a flash drive and install once Windows 7 is installed
The EU didn't take out IE from Windows though, MS did - there was a number of different ways they could have complied with the law and chose this one. And really, Paint, Notepad etc aren't really value added features.
For those of you wondering how anyone is supposed to download a browser without a browser installed and without any other system at hand: Create a very simple HTML application (*.hta).
1) Create a new text file called anything.hta
2) Edit it with Notepad
3) Add this line:
<iframe src=”http://www.google.com/” width=”100%” height=”100%” />
4) Save the file, close Notepad
5) Double-click anything.hta and go get your browser of choice
HTAs don’t have the usual navigation buttons, no URL bar, no cookie support, no builtin security features, but they can download files, which is all you need to get a browser.
I was just going to put Firefox on a pen drive, but that's a pretty good tip to get it on the day
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They were only supposed to stop the OS from automatically installing their internet browser and leave that as an option to the user when installing the OS.
However M$ have spat the dummy and decided to remove the browsing software all to gether
However M$ have spat the dummy and decided to remove the browsing software all to gether
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I'm surprised that people don't have a 2nd hard drive or, at the very least, 2 partitions on their main PC.
I thought the problem was that MS would have also had to provide additional browsers such as firefox as part of the optional installation so the user could choose. Obviously if they did this MS (and the OEMs) would have had to provide support for the other browsers.
I'm calling shenanigans on that. They could have quite easily come up with a solution based around a HTML Application ... like the OP has done actually.
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Exactamundo, every useful program that I've ever downloaded has been saved to my 2nd hdd, so when I do a reinstall, I just navigate to that folder and install away, without the need of my paltry 500KB/s maximum ever download speed to be used.
Remember, the idea behind the monopoly laws is that a monopoly is not permitted to do certain things that other companies ARE permitted to do.
So the EU was attempting to remove an unfair advantage which exists because this is a monopoly situation.
However I am pretty sure that MS deciding to not provide an upgrade edition at all is their way of protesting. So MS are still the ones in the wrong.
Do we know for sure that they aren't going to do something like that?
I have to admit to be totally out of the loop on the details of the ruling and also on the actual steps MS have decided to take to make sure they abide by the decision.
As far as I'm aware all we know is that MS have agreed not to ship IE built into W7.
But do we know for sure that there won't be a screen with a list of all the available browsers, where the user gets to chose which one to install?
I've googled a bit - but a lot of info seems to be hearsay and speculation, much like on these forums. Would be interesting to know if anyone has links to any facts from the case itself.
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Judging by the top left of the box, we have to supply our own. Although the asterisk after the wording may reveal more details.
I don't think there's any doubt about the fact that there is no browser included in the OS. The important question is how are users expected to install their OS of choice.
If they are expected to have an existing browser install file on a seperate partition / USB stick, then imo this ruling has done nothing for anti-competetiveness and has just made life harder for the end user.
If MS are allowed to prompt the user to install IE through Windows Update, then this ruling has again done nothing to change anti-competetiveness, imo.
If MS put up a prompt to chose to download a browser of choice from a list of options, then imo that is a fine solution and achieves what most people would view a 'fair'. IE will no doubt appear at the top of the list and will be most 'casual' users browser of choice, but the other browsers will be there for all to see and chose from.
What my previous post was asking, is do we know for sure which of these options (or any others) are actually the method being used by MS? If we don't then it is all just speculation and conjecture.
According to MS you need to have a browser on CD-ROM/external hard drive/hard drive/pen drive etc.
Microsoft said:
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/offers/pre-order.aspx
Yep, because the fact that Iexplore.exe is missing does not mean that the rendering engine for IE is absent (Trident is still present because it's treated as an api in windows).
And easy money for IT support outlets.