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I have a Vaio laptop which I upgraded from XP to Vista - Core Duo 1.66, 1.5GB RAM, crappy Intel graphics. It was always slow on Vista - I blamed the rubbish graphics and HD - so tonight I was gonna wipe it and put XP back on. Then I remembered that I'd acquired the 7 beta the other week and thought 'what the hell, might as well give it a go!'
So far, I'm really impressed. Installed quickly, installed drivers for all the components that Vista couldn't. The differences are definitely not just cosmetic - my laptop feels like a different computer. Where the Vista install was always laggy and hammered the slow HD, the 7 beta feels nearly as smooth and snappy around Windows as my Q6600 with 4GB on Vista. This is what Vista should have been.
I can't see there being many delays for Windows 7. This beta seems very stable and pleasant to use.
(edit) Been playing a bit more. Feature-wise, it's very similar to Vista apart from the new taskbar. But I'll be getting it because on slightly aging hardware, it seems to me to be faster than XP, let alone Vista.
So far, I'm really impressed. Installed quickly, installed drivers for all the components that Vista couldn't. The differences are definitely not just cosmetic - my laptop feels like a different computer. Where the Vista install was always laggy and hammered the slow HD, the 7 beta feels nearly as smooth and snappy around Windows as my Q6600 with 4GB on Vista. This is what Vista should have been.
I can't see there being many delays for Windows 7. This beta seems very stable and pleasant to use.
(edit) Been playing a bit more. Feature-wise, it's very similar to Vista apart from the new taskbar. But I'll be getting it because on slightly aging hardware, it seems to me to be faster than XP, let alone Vista.
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Various dates flying around, most are saying sometime next month, but will have to wait and see
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If none of the code has been rewritten, surely it would still be Vista!
It's essentially Vista - most of the changes are either performance tweaking or cosmetic. Think of it as what XP was to 2000.If none of the code has been rewritten, surely it would still be Vista!
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Win 7 still called as "Vista R2" as using some of Vista core kernel -- when MS mentioned Win 7 will be smaller size than Vista that what I wonder about - think MS using half of Vista to merge wtih Win 7 so that add up using as Vista with Win 7 own designed like new look taskbar,etc.. but it still using NT6.1
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Yes but it's not that 'none of the code has been rewritten' is it?
True I think from a consumer point of view this won't be some massive revelation, however for businesses and developers there are some exciting changes 'under the hood'.
According to Neowin
" Update: According to Neufuse in the comments this was a publishing error on the CMS from Microsoft. Microsoft have now removed the link. Expect access to the beta after Steve Ballmer's keynote on Wednesday 7th January 2009, unless it leaks beforehand of course. "
I'd say the opposite was true. The changes under the hood happened in Vista. Windows 7 is just going to make use of them to change the consumer experience.
Apart from using a different kernel. Even though they have kept it as 6 for compatibility reasons. So software doesn't fall over like it did from xp to vista.
It'll essentially be the same kernel - fairly minor evolutionary update to the one in Vista. Vista was where the big changes took place.
The kernal and all the system stacks are essentially the same (and these were where the major changes from XP to Vista were made, some of the system stacks hadn't been changed since windows 3.1...), the main place where 7 is going to be a smaller size is that they are modulising some of the features that were previously considered 'core', meaning that you don't have to install them, and the system won't assume they are there automatically.
The main difference from an end user/business user perspective is that software is more likely to work out of the box on a new Win 7 build because it'll already have been rewritten for Vista (as opposed to the XP->Vista transition), and therefore it will probably have a better reputation, just like Windows 98 did against windows 95 as the problematic dos mode applications had become far less common by the release of win 98.
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so if you use your old vista beta key which i dont know were it is how long do you get to try it,or can you use your original vista key im using for my genuine copy on my pc now
Not really kept up with win7 as i am a happy vista 64 user and find it a lot better for me personally then xp ever was. Doe's win7 have the winfs that vista was meant to have or are they still working on that ??. Will probably try it out when it reaches proper beta stage as i assume at that stage it will be more or less feature complete.
I think we will have to just ignore some posters and their comments be it on vista or win7 as it seems to be the fashion in some circles to be anti MS no matter what it is and they are not going to change no matter how many facts you throw or how many happy users there are.
Xp was fine in it's day but lets be honest that day has come and gone and time has moved on so we should all be supporting a progression that will allow us to make the best use of our hardware that we paid a lot of cash for.
I think we will have to just ignore some posters and their comments be it on vista or win7 as it seems to be the fashion in some circles to be anti MS no matter what it is and they are not going to change no matter how many facts you throw or how many happy users there are.
Xp was fine in it's day but lets be honest that day has come and gone and time has moved on so we should all be supporting a progression that will allow us to make the best use of our hardware that we paid a lot of cash for.