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Why arent they using 3.11
SOmething must have made them change so xp will go eventually
Windows 8 breakthrough !
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Why arent they using 3.11
SOmething must have made them change so xp will go eventually
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Ditto.
Windows Vista to XP downgrade was exceptionally popular. Never experienced many people downgrading Windows 7 though. Vista, yes....like it was a plague compared to XP.
There was nothing wrong with Vista. The issues it had were down to OEMs installing it on computers that couldn't handle it, and companies bodging drivers for it. It took nVidia months to get a working driver, and even then they only sorted it due to a class action lawsuit.
In the early days it would have been routine for a lot of companies, just like it is rolling over Windows 8 today. I did quite a few myself.
Deploying a brand new OS just isn't really standard procedure, regardless of how good it's supposed to be. That's where the whole 'wait till SP1' thing comes from.
We downgraded thousands of win7 machines to xp, who knows how many tens of thousands on a national level, it was very common, we aren't anymore apart from some application specific circumstances but I know some trusts still are.
Win 8 isn't even on the cards for us but it's nothing to do with the OS itself there is a whole host of other reasons why were only now starting the process of migrating the old xp estate to win7. I don't think we are unusual in this.
Windows 7 is a good OS and better than XP in a lot ways, Vista was good as a proof of concept and the real killer for me was that it wouldn't run all my apps.
As for Windows 8 I still hate it, I don't like the interface and find it clunky, obtrusive and in my face. What makes it bearable is Classic Shell so I can boot directly to desktop and avoid all the other crap.
I did try to give it a fair crack...
When I play some MP3's while working I don't want a big app splash screen taking over what I was working on, no! no! no! I don't want music from the music store thanks... why can't I run a program in the taskbar by default out of the way rather than being pimp slapped by Redmond.
On the plus side it is very stable similar to Windows 7.
As for Windows 8 I still hate it, I don't like the interface and find it clunky, obtrusive and in my face. What makes it bearable is Classic Shell so I can boot directly to desktop and avoid all the other crap.
I did try to give it a fair crack...
When I play some MP3's while working I don't want a big app splash screen taking over what I was working on, no! no! no! I don't want music from the music store thanks... why can't I run a program in the taskbar by default out of the way rather than being pimp slapped by Redmond.
On the plus side it is very stable similar to Windows 7.
The first thing I do after installing Win8 is to remove the metro touch apps.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Remove-All-Pre-Installed-Windows-8-Metro-Apps-328110.shtml
I find win 8 pretty convenient tbh. Boots fast as hell, I can only remember one crash and that was a dodgy overclock, I have all my pax drivers loaded correctly.
The minor annoyances I can deal with (like FB app being stupidly slow to update with news etc), and being out of sync. I'm sure all my issues could be easily sorted. For the record I generally hate the apps for Win 8, they are too bloody simplistic for a fully fledged PC. The one I use often though is Netflix which is just handy tbh.
The minor annoyances I can deal with (like FB app being stupidly slow to update with news etc), and being out of sync. I'm sure all my issues could be easily sorted. For the record I generally hate the apps for Win 8, they are too bloody simplistic for a fully fledged PC. The one I use often though is Netflix which is just handy tbh.
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I agree,Plus most pre-builds come with them standard too now.
I'm sticking with Windows 7 for now,Maybe get windows 8 when the price goes down as its a ripoff at its current pricing.
That graph to me looks so off though,i really do think the Linux numbers are higher than that,same with the OSX.
Many of us jumped on Win8 when it was going for £15 to £25 at its launch ,bargain at that price and I thought Win7 was a rip off ie paying full price for minor upgrade over Vista,basically same UI,tweaked UAC and speed,oh well at least with Win8 I got far better value for money ,also with Win8.1 coming free to Win8 users soon and DX11.2 things are looking great indeed.
It'll be interesting to see how DX11.2 develops gaming wise between PC(Win8.1) and Xbox One down the road ,I guess only time will tell,but at least gamers get something new ie a free new bone so to speak.
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Many of us jumped on Win8 when it was going for £15 to £25 at its launch ,bargain at that price and I thought Win7 was a rip off ie paying full price for minor upgrade over Vista,basically same UI,tweaked UAC and speed,oh well at least with Win8 I got far better value for money ,also with Win8.1 coming free to Win8 users soon and DX11.2 things are looking great indeed.
It just shows though,they CAN sell it at those prices and still make a HUGE profit.at its current pricing its just greed.
I do wish now id bought a copy when it was £25 but oh well.
Thats because we have Lazy developers who cant be arsed with all the extra work so they just still produce games quickly in DX9..take call of duty for example.
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Not completely, we are mainly XP with some W8 dotted around the place, we are currently testing Win7 for the next major hardware/software refresh, and when it is ready, we will roll it out to all the machines that we have bought in the last year and downgraded to XP.
The enterprise corporate cycle is a lot slower and far more conservative than everywhere else, it is just IT departments that have Win8, in my office of 26, we all have W8.1 now, though switch between VM's depending on what we want to do.
Thats the beauty of IT, if a user wanted win8, they would have to wait for the business, but we download what OS we like for 'testing' purposes
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Still using Vista here and never really had a problem with it (unlike 7 or 8)
As an example....
How do I (quickly and easily) do a search for files between a given date on a non-indexed drive I have just added. In Vista (and previous versions) it was a 3 second job - now, on every Win7 or Win8 computer I try to do it on, I have to either go clicking on a half dozen Control panel options to get a slower result (often missing the files I am looking for) - or install a third party app to let me do the same simple task I used to do.
And in a business environment - well, don't even get me started - especially with custom written software. Virtually all outsourced software we have for controlling mechanical devices/tools/robots/machines etc no longer works correctly on Windows 7 or 8 - due to the constant prompts/security/checks that it does in the background. You may say that's a good thing....but when you have a business that's struggling to survive and has inadvertently upgraded it's 10 essential PC's - only to find it then has to get all it's vendors to re-write their software.....for many £1000's...well.
Any manufacturing business that has tools/machines controlled by windows based PCs would be mad to install Win8.... and when you have some factories with 2000, 3000 or more computers essential to their daily work - can you imagine how ridiculous a metro interface would be on factory critical equipment.
As an example....
How do I (quickly and easily) do a search for files between a given date on a non-indexed drive I have just added. In Vista (and previous versions) it was a 3 second job - now, on every Win7 or Win8 computer I try to do it on, I have to either go clicking on a half dozen Control panel options to get a slower result (often missing the files I am looking for) - or install a third party app to let me do the same simple task I used to do.
And in a business environment - well, don't even get me started - especially with custom written software. Virtually all outsourced software we have for controlling mechanical devices/tools/robots/machines etc no longer works correctly on Windows 7 or 8 - due to the constant prompts/security/checks that it does in the background. You may say that's a good thing....but when you have a business that's struggling to survive and has inadvertently upgraded it's 10 essential PC's - only to find it then has to get all it's vendors to re-write their software.....for many £1000's...well.
Any manufacturing business that has tools/machines controlled by windows based PCs would be mad to install Win8.... and when you have some factories with 2000, 3000 or more computers essential to their daily work - can you imagine how ridiculous a metro interface would be on factory critical equipment.
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Not quite following you but does clicking in the search box (or pressing F3) and then selecting "Date Modified:" under "Add a search filter" and selecting a date range not work? (I don't have any non-indexed volumes to test against EDIT: Just tested with some non-indexed removable storage and that works for me).
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