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It seems to work exactly the same as in Win 7, you can't move the entire User folder and have to do each folder individually to the new location.

Go to C:\Users\Username\
Select the foldername, right click properties
Select the location tab, and choose Move
Browse to the new location
 
It seems to work exactly the same as in Win 7, you can't move the entire User folder and have to do each folder individually to the new location.

Go to C:\Users\Username\
Select the foldername, right click properties
Select the location tab, and choose Move
Browse to the new location

Thanks mate, Iv'e always done it via the start menu
 
That's enlightening, so you use the Start Menu in exactly the same way you used it in Win 95 to XP?

MS have been changing the way the Start Menu works since Vista, first with improved search, and moving to pinned taskbar items in Win 7, which have reduced the reliance on the old start menu folders/trees to launch programs.

If you've not changed your habits/workflow with Vista and/or 7, it's going to be a harder transition, and perhaps is why MS are forcing people now, giving the choice to change hasn't worked.

FWIW I made more use of the pinned items and less reliant on Start Menu in Win 7. The transition is pretty easy, as in normal day to day use I rarely need the Start Screen.

I do a bit of a mix of everything tbh.

Stuff I use often (Firefox, Office and the like) is pinned for easy access.

Random stuff like GPU-Z, benchmarks, and games (steam/origin) I have desktop icons.

Other less used stuff, or basic stuff (like calc/notepad etc) I use the start button.

This way I have speedy access to the few things I use most often all the time (pinned), quick access to the apps I am most bothered about (desktop icons), and everything else is hidden behind the start button keeping the clutter away.



Again though you are reinforcing my argument against Metro. As you say:

"I made more use of the pinned items and less reliant on Start Menu in Win 7. The transition is pretty easy, as in normal day to day use I rarely need the Start Screen."

Pinned items in Win7 are a much more efficient way of doing it, the things you do the most are already there ready to use at the click of a button, Win8 wants you to leave whatever your doing, switch to metro, and then click. It's actually less efficient.

Same with anything on the start button, in Win7 I don't have to change the screen just to load an app. Win8 forces you to break off what you are doing to navigate your apps menu. It just doesn't feel as fluid.
 
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I disagree it's less efficient. With the traditional Start Menu you cannot interact with any other part of Windows at the same time. So going to full screen Start Screen doesn't alter this. It's a more jarring transition but no effect on efficiency.

Also what I meant by pinned items is more reliance on pinned taskbar items, not pinned Start Screen items. Though in Windows 8 you're not restricted to one group of pinned Start Screen items, and you can lay these out in groups. With Win 7 you have a single list of pinned items at the top of your Start Menu.

I don't see how that reinforces your argument but I do accept that the way you currently use Windows means it's a harder transition for you, and that the full screen Start Screen may not be to your taste.
 
And you are Wrong

I have been considering for some time now putting together a video titled 'Why Windows 8 is better than you think it is'. For those of you that are struggling to get on with the 'metro style interface', I suggest you never understood what the 'start menu' was in the first place. Please, ask yourselves the following question:

Why should the 'Start' interface, the 'First point of contact' for any user of the system, the 'triage' that divides or the 'concierge' that directs, be confined to roughly only 30% of the visible screen space rendered as Explorer style list nodes?

The new interface does EXACTLY what the old one did. The only difference is the presentation.

How on earth can I be wrong, its an opinion ?!?

I don't need Metro for what I do on PC's. A simple menu, pleases me. Not a whole full screen of distraction. I hardly use the start menu. Everything is either on the desktop, or task bar.

The bottom line is, I don't need Metro for day to day use of my PC.
 
How on earth can I be wrong, its an opinion ?!?

I don't need Metro for what I do on PC's. A simple menu, pleases me. Not a whole full screen of distraction. I hardly use the start menu. Everything is either on the desktop, or task bar.

The bottom line is, I don't need Metro for day to day use of my PC.

Then install a start menu and don't use metro. Whats the problem?
 
End of the day I can't see MS not including an option to disable Metro in the final product.

Business users and the like aren't going to have time for Metro, and has been mentioned before the server versions don't have metro either. So Win8 obviously can work perfectly well without it.

It really should be down to user preference.
 
and has been mentioned before the server versions don't have metro either. So Win8 obviously can work perfectly well without it.

whoever mentioned that is wrong. windows 8 server has the metro start screen and you can't turn it off. i know this because i've tested the beta myself.
 
My understanding is that Metro underpins everything. Desktop is essentially an app running on top of Metro.

Windows 8 Server also includes Metro.

Really? Well it seems I've been misinformed on that front then.

I'm honestly surprised to hear that Metro is on a Server OS... that just seems utterly ridiculous... =/

Not ridiculous when you consider my earlier comment and that MS don't want to maintain separate code bases for the underlying OS.
 
I hardly use the start menu.

The bottom line is, I don't need Metro

So to clarify, given the two are different representations of exactly the same idea, your argument is over a feature you hardly use and do not need... What exactly is the problem here?



Pinned items in Win7 are a much more efficient way of doing it, the things you do the most are already there ready to use at the click of a button, Win8 wants you to leave whatever your doing, switch to metro, and then click. It's actually less efficient.

Once again, 'metro' IS the start button. Its exactly the same menu rendered in a more organic way.

Old system:

Pop the start menu using the windows key or clicking on the start button. Locate the task you want to perform and enter or click to run.

New system:

Pop the start menu using the windows key or activating the hot zone. Locate the task you want to perform and enter or click to run.

The ONLY valid criticism you can make is that at present, the experience is slightly disorientating as you lose visual context that the 'start menu' exists within the operating systems window manager. Something that could easily be solved with transparency through to the desktop render.


Not to mention that if whatever program you are using isn't an 'app' all you get is a normal 'icon' but instead of taking up 'icon' space it takes up a huge generic square

I would hazard a good guess that is because this operating system has not yet been released and as such the software developers have not integrated their 'tiles' into their deployment packages. There needs to be a fall back for software that has not been integrated properly yet as this is a transition. Live tiles are for everybody, not just microsofts fan club.
 
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All io can see is that is has a different task manager and you can move the tabs around on the taskbar, it doesn't even have a start button!
 
Metro on Server 8 isnt really a big deal. The main decision is whether you choose the run the GUI or not as the default is Server Core. In for a penny in for a pound.

There isn't any point in Microsoft engineering an alternative GUI "without Metro" if they are trying to encourage people to run server core. It might seem too slick for a server but many would say the same thing about a wimp interface.
 
Can other people open programs by clicking links on your browser? Like when you get a link to a spotify track and you can usually press play for it to open/play the song on Spotify or with the new way piratebay works you should be able to click it and it starts downloading the torrent for you.
 
Can other people open programs by clicking links on your browser? Like when you get a link to a spotify track and you can usually press play for it to open/play the song on Spotify or with the new way piratebay works you should be able to click it and it starts downloading the torrent for you.
Magnet links don't work for me.

Oh, and just a heads up on compatibility. While most games run perfectly I've come across issues with two games: Crysis 2 (only works in DX9 mode) and LA Noire (doesn't work at all, but hardly surprising given how shocking the port is).
 
Metro on Server 8 isnt really a big deal. The main decision is whether you choose the run the GUI or not as the default is Server Core. In for a penny in for a pound.

There isn't any point in Microsoft engineering an alternative GUI "without Metro" if they are trying to encourage people to run server core. It might seem too slick for a server but many would say the same thing about a wimp interface.

Using Server Core is only viable if you don't need all of the functionality. By that I mean you can't use all roles on Server Core.

There's a great document on Microsofts site about Server Core vs Full install which lists all of the functionality you lose.

At some stage you will need a full blown Windows server and putting a Metro interface on this is going to look daft. Not that it matters as we won't be moving to this anyway - we now have a wait until 9 and see what happens there.



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I've got no problems with the Metro interface on say a tablet, desktop etc... but I do have to question it on a server.

In my job, which is managed hosting we have something like 1,500 servers all located in datacentres around the country. Some as close as 10 miles, while others are 100's of miles away. I'd estimate that 98% of all tasks after initial build phase are conducted remotely, either by remote MMC, WMI, Powershell or largely RDP.

Now when you consider that physical servers are becoming less and less popular without it being or having some flavour of virtualisation I have to wonder just how effective the metro interface will become.

Using it within workstation currently isn't brilliant. Moving the mouse off screen / edges of boundaries to get a reaction I can imagine being horrendous within a OOB such as iDRAC / iLO / RSA console, let alone HyperV, ESX or xen server console sessions.

I'm really not against metro, but I'd need to see how it works in the enterprise segment as it may need massive changes to how we manage multiple customers servers outside of a single AD domain.
 
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