Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread

m4cc45 said:
Saw the announcement and the most interesting thing is that they may well be adding a start button in for Pro / Domain users. Still can't see anyone using this for business use though.


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Well the Start Button would make the Pro version a lot more attractive I suppose.At the moment there's a lot of learning with the new interface - at least trying to the jobs in Windows 8 we have all been doing on Windows 7. The Start Button would make it far simpler for people to migrate and would make it a possible choice for business, though i think most businesses, having only just moved to Windows 7, are unlikely to move again.
 
Windows and office Update

I dont know if anyone else has found this, but I installed Office 2010 along with Windows 8 and left the updating to Windows Update. I noticed today, though, the Update is only updating Windows and so the necessary updates to Office have not been done.


Anyone come across this and, more importantly, found a fix for it?
 
Anyone got a source for this Start button for Pro edition rumour?

As for Office 2010 I can't say I've noticed either way. I'll check tomorrow if I remember. I know Metro apps don't like our proxy but desktop Windows Update has been working fine.
 
prescott28 said:
I dont know if anyone else has found this, but I installed Office 2010 along with Windows 8 and left the updating to Windows Update. I noticed today, though, the Update is only updating Windows and so the necessary updates to Office have not been done.


Anyone come across this and, more importantly, found a fix for it?
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Don't recall a problem. Try going to Control Panel->Windows Update and checking that you have the option to install updates for other MS products selected - I think the default is for Windows updates only.

This should be an option in the Metro Windows Update...
 
Well, on my installation Windows update there is no choice for what should be updated - it is just Windows only. Mind, I can't remember what it said in Windows 7 but installing Office seems to trigger Office updates on Windows 7.

however, when I look at the updates that have already been applied, I see that it has quietly updated Office in the background without even mentioning that it is updating it. So, problem solved.

Thanks for the help.
 
theheyes said:
Anyone got a source for this Start button for Pro edition rumour?

As for Office 2010 I can't say I've noticed either way. I'll check tomorrow if I remember. I know Metro apps don't like our proxy but desktop Windows Update has been working fine.
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It was on BBC news in the technology section if thats any help.

I also don't think it's a rumor as the story was based on a Microsoft Windows 8 blog.



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WindowsTeamBlog said:
NOTE: As with previous versions of Windows, we will also have an edition of Windows 8 specifically for those enterprise customers with Software Assurance agreements. Windows 8 Enterprise includes all the features of Windows 8 Pro plus features for IT organization that enable PC management and deployment, advanced security, virtualization, new mobility scenarios, and much more.

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
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BBC said:
For the first time since its inception, the trademark Windows "Start" button will no longer appear - instead being replaced by a sliding panel-based menu.

In a footnote in its blog, Microsoft said that there would be an adapted version of Windows 8 Pro for businesses.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17740566
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Has morphed into the Start Menu is making a return...It might happen, but unless there is another source MS hasn't said anything of the sort.
 
Well, having read the BBC article and the Windows Blog I don't see anything to suggest the return of the Start Button. Sure there will be an Enterprise version but even that doesn't suggest the Start Button is coming back. I think the start button is dead.
 
I thought as much. My logic is that if they are going to put the Start screen on Windows Server then there's almost zero chance of the desktop versions being any different.

I think it's the right decision though.
 
I'm not too sure. I have been using 8 for some weeks now on my main machine and with everything installed right I haven't had many problems. however,

1. I am using the Quick-Launch tool-bar for most of my programmes but installing a new program doesn't put an icon on it so one has to chase around finding the program to add it.

2. Some of the Metro apps are annoying and need deleting - if I could work out how. I don't use full-screen apps and use things like MS Messenger and don't want the Metro messaging app and neither so I need an email client in full screen as Thunderbird can mange that one easily. Apart from the odd game, I don't need Metro at all but can't be dumped.

These are the reasons I would like a start button back which I can get with Classic Shell but I rather think the OS should not need additions - at least when it first comes out. For this reason I have grave doubts that I shall buy it unless it is at a silly price of course.

I am going to reformat at the weekend and go back to Windows 7 to see what if anything I miss from 8 but I doubt there is much other than 5GB of disk space as the 8 install is smaller than the 7 install.
 
prescott28 said:
I'm not too sure. I have been using 8 for some weeks now on my main machine and with everything installed right I haven't had many problems. however,

1. I am using the Quick-Launch tool-bar for most of my programmes but installing a new program doesn't put an icon on it so one has to chase around finding the program to add it.

2. Some of the Metro apps are annoying and need deleting - if I could work out how. I don't use full-screen apps and use things like MS Messenger and don't want the Metro messaging app and neither so I need an email client in full screen as Thunderbird can mange that one easily. Apart from the odd game, I don't need Metro at all but can't be dumped.

These are the reasons I would like a start button back which I can get with Classic Shell but I rather think the OS should not need additions - at least when it first comes out. For this reason I have grave doubts that I shall buy it unless it is at a silly price of course.

I am going to reformat at the weekend and go back to Windows 7 to see what if anything I miss from 8 but I doubt there is much other than 5GB of disk space as the 8 install is smaller than the 7 install.
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I doubt you'll miss anything :) I haven't since I moved back on my main machine. What I have been doing though is working differently, more reliance on task bar and less on Start Menu for things.

I miss the new file transfer windows, the new task manager and that's about it.

I also think the smaller hard drive footprint is a red herring too, it's not finished and the unfinished apps + additional apps will take up more space in the RTM. I can't see it being significantly different to Windows 7 by the time it's finished.
 
In an earlier 8,600-plus word blog post Windows president Steven Sinofsky detailed the "energising and daunting" challenges in developing Windows on ARM.

A preview version of Windows 8 launched late last year and more than 100,000 changes had been made since the developer version went public.

For the first time since its inception, the trademark Windows "Start" button will no longer appear - instead being replaced by a sliding panel-based menu.

In a footnote in its blog, Microsoft said that there would be an adapted version of Windows 8 Pro for businesses.
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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...ndows-for-the-arm-processor-architecture.aspx

http://www.lukepaynesoftware.com/projects/windows-8-start-screen-editor/

So they might have a different version of pro. I doubt it will be that different.
 
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx

Looking at this table, it shows that the RT version won't support windows applications. That is a bit of a shame imo. If there was any benefit from having a windows Os on a tablet it was the massive list of applications that were available. They might not be touch based but who cares. Maybe they couldn't get the arm cpu to work with them.
 
groen said:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx

Looking at this table, it shows that the RT version won't support windows applications. That is a bit of a shame imo. If there was any benefit from having a windows Os on a tablet it was the massive list of applications that were available. They might not be touch based but who cares. Maybe they couldn't get the arm cpu to work with them.
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I'm sure there'll be two flavour of tablets. Ones that will run full fat Windows and legacy apps, which is what I think you're thinking of. You'll be able to use Metro apps on the move as a tablet, plug a mouse and keyboard when you're home and use it as a full blown machine. Doubt there'll be many, and I doubt they'll be cheap though.

The ones with WinRT will be using ARM and will just run the new Metro apps, without legacy/desktop Windows applications. This is what they'll aim at consumers to go up against Android tablets and iPads.
 
groen said:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...ndows-for-the-arm-processor-architecture.aspx

http://www.lukepaynesoftware.com/projects/windows-8-start-screen-editor/

So they might have a different version of pro. I doubt it will be that different.
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I'm running the consumer preview on an Iconia Tab W500. It runs metro great and I can quickly switch to the desktop to run Office, iPlayer, Sky Go, Civ 5, and the Sonos control panel, etc.

The thing was only £350 as well. I think there will be a lot of great x86 processor tablets by the big players for some good prices.
 
I hope they have some great tablets ready to go at launch and not some reheated products from the last 12 months. There's no excuse really. It'll be interesting to see how the battery life compares to the iPad.
 
On windows 8 cp do we need to install a firewall/anti virus like kaspersky internet security? Or is the built in windows defender now good enough on it's own?
 
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