Windows 98 Gaming PC: The Beige Build
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I used to have a Lan Party IDE cable which was green and UV reactive.Chieftec Dragon in grey. Get the inside powder coated matte grey or black.
https://www.eightforums.com/drivers...s=ff5d80036e664ddf71e27081926b0fc1#post428924
Remember the fancy ones, with black rubber covers?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/akasa-rounded-ultra-ata133-100-66-ide-cable-0.9m-black-cb-002-ge.html
Soldato
God aye, forgot about that. Good call squire!
Today I cut off the little leg what was blocking the CPU:
Before
After:
With the CPU
Edit- I like how this picture of 'precision electrical equipment' ominously has a saw in the background
Unfortunately the retention clip is bulging a bit, as the CPU has a little springy clip itself which is meant to stick out one of the little holes on the motherboard retention clip to stop vertical movement. However, the clip is mounted too high on the cooler, so it pushes against the motherboard clip and pushes it out a bit. But the CPU is properly mounted into the CPU Slot and won't go any lower, I think it is just the varying cooler and retention clip design between manufacturers
Sadly I can't fire it up as I am missing jumpers to tell the motherboard what the CPUS multiplier and FSB speeds are... unless I just try anyway!
Before
After:
With the CPU
Edit- I like how this picture of 'precision electrical equipment' ominously has a saw in the background
Unfortunately the retention clip is bulging a bit, as the CPU has a little springy clip itself which is meant to stick out one of the little holes on the motherboard retention clip to stop vertical movement. However, the clip is mounted too high on the cooler, so it pushes against the motherboard clip and pushes it out a bit. But the CPU is properly mounted into the CPU Slot and won't go any lower, I think it is just the varying cooler and retention clip design between manufacturers
Sadly I can't fire it up as I am missing jumpers to tell the motherboard what the CPUS multiplier and FSB speeds are... unless I just try anyway!
Soldato
Still rocking my PlusView 1000AMG with a 3.2GHz P4 Prescott socket 478 OCd to 3.4GHz on a Gigabyte 8KNXP mobo, 3GB DDR in dual channel and a 128MB 6800 Ultra. She's still a lovely girl.
She'll get some retro love one day. I fancy making a new back panel to accommodate 120mm fans, bottom-mounted PSU and shove the mobo upwards a bit. Might even make a socket 478 mount for a AIO of some description (that Prescott is HOT HOT HOT), or even a full loop inside. I wonder if I could mount my spare GTX Titan cooler to the 6800 Ultra...
I cannot get over an article from 1998 still exists.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/review-of-slot-1-motherboards-with-intel-440bx-chipset,review-66.html
Fun times messing with IRQ numbers.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/review-of-slot-1-motherboards-with-intel-440bx-chipset,review-66.html
Fun times messing with IRQ numbers.
I was partly inspired by reading the old reviews on Anandtech. If you go to the last page of CPU / GPU articles, there are reviews from 1997/8 which I found interesting! The pictures still work and everything!
I've run another problem it won't post! Nothing on the screen at all. The GPU fan spins up, the HDDs click to life and the KBM numlock etc LEDs flash once. I've got a little PC speaker plugged in and I don't get any error beeps.
I've installed the jumpers with 7x multiplier and 100.3MHz FSB. The manual only goes up to P3 550MHz as an example configuration but it says how to set various multipliers and FBSs. I've set the "keyboard boot" jumper to off, which the manual says is the default option. I've unplugged everything except the KBM, GPU, CPU and RAM. I then even unplugged all the RAM, GPU and CPU in turn to see if I could at least generate error beeps, but nothing...
I've done normal stuff like tried different sticks of RAM in different slots.
Any ideas? Considering it does not provide any beeps at all, I think it is the Motherboard or CPU (too much bad luck for it to be 3x sticks of RAM...)
it won't post! Nothing on the screen at all. The GPU fan spins up, the HDDs click to life and the KBM numlock etc LEDs flash once. I've got a little PC speaker plugged in and I don't get any error beeps.I've installed the jumpers with 7x multiplier and 100.3MHz FSB. The manual only goes up to P3 550MHz as an example configuration but it says how to set various multipliers and FBSs. I've set the "keyboard boot" jumper to off, which the manual says is the default option. I've unplugged everything except the KBM, GPU, CPU and RAM. I then even unplugged all the RAM, GPU and CPU in turn to see if I could at least generate error beeps, but nothing...
I've done normal stuff like tried different sticks of RAM in different slots.
Any ideas? Considering it does not provide any beeps at all, I think it is the Motherboard or CPU (too much bad luck for it to be 3x sticks of RAM...)
Don
I would suggest the board either doesn't support a Coppermine PIII, or hasn't got an updated BIOS.
Based on this http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P2B.html It looks like I also need PCB revision 1.12 as well to support Coppermine. My motherboard is Rev P2B 1.04, although that website suggests the only revisions that exist are 1.10 and 1.12 :/ Well anyway I might pop a reply in my wanted thread now!
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Other great games, X-wing vs Tie fighter, X-wing alliance, jedi knight 2 + expansions , star wars supremacy (rebellion), half life, colin mcrae rally, quake 2, civ 2, duke nukem, grim fandango, grand prix legends, sid meiers pirates!, its late i cant remember anymore 
Nice project, good luck!
Nice project, good luck!
I've got two compatible CPUs on the way (thanks armageus!) and I'm thinking of getting a more period graphics card to go with the rest of the system. I've narrowed it down to the ATi Rage 128 Pro and the TNT2 (mainly for cost reasons). Which would you recommend?
Don
TNT2 without a doubt - ATI drivers from that period were flaky (and deserving of their reputation)
Is anything from Savage worth a look?
Soldato
Well done Sir!
After watching LGR and Phil's Computing Lab, I put together a semi-retro machine.
It's a Celeron (1.3Ghz) (Socket 370) based machine running MSDOS and Windows (WFW) 3.11. It had an ISA Slot, so I picked up an Aztech Sound Card and a Dreamblaster S1 General Midi daughterboard. It's sitting in a modern-ish case though. It has an S3 Virge Video Card. It uses an IDE > CF Adapter for its boot drive.
I then had the bug and installed Win98SE on an AMD Fujitsu Esprimo machine (E5616).
After watching LGR and Phil's Computing Lab, I put together a semi-retro machine.
It's a Celeron (1.3Ghz) (Socket 370) based machine running MSDOS and Windows (WFW) 3.11. It had an ISA Slot, so I picked up an Aztech Sound Card and a Dreamblaster S1 General Midi daughterboard. It's sitting in a modern-ish case though. It has an S3 Virge Video Card. It uses an IDE > CF Adapter for its boot drive.
I then had the bug and installed Win98SE on an AMD Fujitsu Esprimo machine (E5616).
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Bit too new for me as I already have a 4 series for DX 8 games.
I ordered a TNT2 Pro (luckily I got suspicious of all the "M64" names appearing and learned that they're the slower version!) today for £12. It's passive, and it will be a bit strange having a 'mostly' passive PC.
I may end up selling my backup 7970 and using the money (and space) to get a Voodoo 3 + 2D??? as I understand that is the done thing!
The game collection is building now but is lacking
Nice! I think someone here told me that a CF card would make the storage pretty nippy (similar to a new HDD PC). That just sounded a bit too complicated for me
I was going to go for a SB Live! but decided to save a few quid and stick with the CMI8738 that was in the donor PC and spend the money on games!