Windows 98 Gaming PC: The Beige Build

Love this!

Windows 98 has a driver to make xbox 360 pads work too! Been playing colin mcrae 1 on it lol

CEX have classic pc games for pennies literally. I bought a pile a while back

I desperately want a proper voodoo card for it but they go for so much money :(

That's a great little setup in a nice small case! Have you considered using an SD card instead of a HDD?Something like this would keep things a bit tidier as it plugs straight into an IDE connector and doesn't require molex auxiliary power (it's also faster).

I also make the most of CEX's 50p PC games, I have had a couple of good hauls recently:
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Where did you get drivers for the xbox 360 controller on Windows 98? I was looking to get an old gameport controller for it, but if the 360 controller works, that would save a lot of hassle.
 

Thanks for that, I had found that page but I'm not having much luck with installing the drivers! I'll give it another go tonight I think.

In other news I have rage-bought a crap Compaq Socket 370 motherboard to finally upgrade the 450MHz PII to (hopefully) a 1+GHz Tualatin. Eventually anyway; I've got a 700MHz Coppermine to slot in when it arrives from my failed slotket adventure.

I say rage-bought because I missed out on a two nice ASUS boards; one went for a reasonable price but I was outbid by about 7p and the other went for £45 so I didn't bother. I've had my eye on this compaq board for a while and for £13 it's worth the risk of being crap. eBay seller's picture below:

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It's from a Compaq Deskpro Workstation AP230, part number 187498-001. Details on it are limited and often contradictory but it's got an 815E chipset which allows for 133MHz FSB/RAM, uses SDRAM like I have already, AGP x4, PCI 2.2...

I'm a little nervous about the AGP slot as some pictures of the board and similar boards on the net show a random, small PCB inserted, not much bigger than the slot itself, with no outputs on it... Was AGP used for anything other than graphics cards?
 
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Hi, welcome to the forums! it looks like you've got some great games lined up for that PC ;) If you're into this sort of this you might want to check out the recent thread about PC Gaming nostalgia. In terms of your PC...

The first thing I would do with a PC like this open it up, take it all apart and remove all the dust, put new thermal paste on CPU an CPU cooler. This way you can be sure all the wires are connected properly. I would assemble only a very basic setup at first- Motherboard, Power supply, CPU+cooler, 1 stick of RAM, graphics (using motherboard graphics if available) and try it out like that. No soundcards / hard drives etc connected to the motherboard.
  • It could be something as basic as resetting the bios (unplug the PC, remove the battery from the motherboard, wait 30 seconds and replace the battery)
  • Does the PC have integrated graphics as well as a graphics card? Try connecting using the opposite option to what you're using at the moment!
  • Do the fans spin? Connect one if you have one spare.
  • Do you get any beeps from the PC speaker?
If you get an orange light on the front, the power supply is unlikely to be completely dead. be aware that it is an old power supply and I would recommend getting a new power supply even if it appears to be working fine, due to its likely poor quality and age! Also be aware that Fujitsu Seimens (or however you spell that) may use a non standard power supply!
 
Today marks the end of my Windows 98 PC, the board / RAM / CPU has been sold on eBay as I ended up using a c2d windows 7 32bit PC for a my retro gaming as it is so much more gosh darn convenient! Farewell bootable floppy disks, jumpers and IDE cables!
 
I would say that if you're not going to change much of it and it is cheap or free then sure, it will be 'fine' for an XP build. OEM PCs, and especially Dell, use proprietary cooling, motherboards, power supplies and possibly even GPU limitations. Also remember that the PSU in that will be engineered to be a cheap as possible whilst surviving a certain amount of time (which will be well overdue!).

A custom PC build with a retail rather than OEM motherboard and BIOS will allow you use modern (quiet and reliable) PSUs, easily swap out CPUs, upgrade the BIOS, possibly put in more RAM, maybe allow a greater range of GPUs, allow you to use a modern (quiet and reliable) PSU. ANd you can easily change bits of it.

I would say build a Windows 98 PC for very old disk games and a Windows 7 x86 PC for all other old games as Windows 7 has great compatibility (and if you're limited in budget, space or enthusiasm, the Windows 7 x86 can do double duty to be honest!). I say this as XP is young enough to be unexciting (for me) whilst also being very inferior to Windows 7. The same applies to S478 / P4 kit; they are not old and slow enough to be interesting and worth running with Winodws 98, but not fast enough to be bearable day to do. Also they're very loud as both GPUs and CPUs didn't have fan profiles back then!

I have a Core 2 Duo (any will do to be honest but I would go 7 or 8 series and entry level for noise and power reasons) on a basic 775 motherboard with a modern low power GPU (Nvidia 440) and 3GB of DDR2. All my old games run at 60fps 1080p, pretty much silently. I can use my big stash of SATA HDDs and DVD drives. It is so much more convenient that a P4 build, and S775 parts are dirt cheap!

I say this as someone who had that P2 build and made several P4 builds, all of which only lasted a few days before getting too fed up with them.
 
I have a small update to the Beige gaming machine!

I decided I will paint the case as something to keep me out of trouble in the evenings this week. So far I've sanded down the old beige paint.

Before:

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After:

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This was going from 240 to 400 and then 600 grit level (not sure what the scale is called). I could probably spend twice as long again sanding but, I kind of can't be bothered.

Not sure how to tackle this though, it instantly shredded the sandpaper.

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Next up will be priming and then painting. Not sure what sort of colour scheme to do, maybe an Oblivion based one. So, I'll be painting it beige then? :rolleyes:
 
Today I started off the painting process with some primer, so I now have a very brown PC.

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The primer seems to have overcome the rust really well! Not sure what colour(s) i will paint it but but it will have the following components in it:

Slot A Motherboard
550MHz (potentially a 750MHz CPU offered to me)
Riva TNT2 Pro OR Geforce MX440 OR 4200ti OR 9600XT OR FX5700

I particularly want to do a good job painting the inside (white or off-white) as I think having a painted inside of case (which is not black) will look classy! This is my first time painting anything decently so I don't have high hopes for a perfect finish.
 
Calling knowledgeable people to this thread who helped me before @Armageus @mmj_uk @V F @agw_01 !

I now have a Slot A build on the go and I have taken the heatsink off. Do I need thermal paste between the heatsink and the cartridge, as this would cover a very large area, and the heatsink does not directly touch the CPU lid?
 
This PC is still going! I've painted it to a very poor standard after the undercoating in the posts above. I kept giving it numerous coats to try and it improve it, without realising it was the bright red undercoat that was causing the problems and now the panels are a couple of millimetres bigger than they used to be and it doesn't quite physically fit together like it used to. Still, the inside looks much better now.

Old insides when I got it for £10:

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New insides
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It's now got an Slot A Athlon 800MHz CPU with a Voodoo 3 and SoundBlaster Live which is a bit too powerful really - A game that needs 800MHz will probably be natively compatible with Windows XP or later and therefore look and run better on my much more powerful XP PC.
 
Hi there. Did you ever get this working? is it a proprietary PSU needed (24 pins is unusual for the era)

I'm looking to get a similar mobo but it's not worth it if the PSU costs more!

Yes, it did need a propietary PSU. You can buy adapters that swap the pins around though.

I personally wouldn't buy a 20 year old Dell PSU for an old build! It will be loud and the capacitors will likely need replacing. To be honest I would get a retail rather than OEM board and use a modern power supply.
 
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