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Lord Alibaski

Lord Alibaski

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I have been having this problem with this new PC with Windows 10 so did a fresh install of Windows 11 and the issue is still there. The problem being is high CPU usage and Temps when opening any sites that use java (I know simple answer don’t use any sites that uses java) this is happening when using any browser it is also happening with a couple of media players like MPC-BE & VLC, CPU & Temps not as high as when java but it is still there. Not once did I have this problem on my last system which was an old AMD 1700x.

This has got to be a Windows issue because last night I installed Fedora KDE plasma and not once did I see any high CPU usage or high Temps going on the same sites and using any media player. I could stay on Fedora but I use Staxrip quite a lot and it’s not supported on linux.


Anyone else seeing these issues within Windows on a similar system.

Much appreciated for any help with this one.
 
What's a few examples of websites
That are causing the problem?

And what's your definition of high cpu usage?
What process is using the high %
When it occurs?

If you run winver
It will give both windows version number
And OS build number
Both of those might also be relevant info
So can do an apples to apples comparison
 
I tried it with Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Brave all do the same thing, but never once did it happen before this new system. I did a fresh install of windows 10 and it happened. I upgraded to 11 and it continued so I did a fresh install of 11 it lasted 1 day and started again. I tried fedora last night and it works perfectly fine.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
What's a few examples of websites
That are causing the problem?

And what's your definition of high cpu usage?
What process is using the high %
When it occurs?

If you run winver
It will give both windows version number
And OS build number
Both of those might also be relevant info
So can do an apples to apples comparison
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Will reply to this later had to rush out.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
What's a few examples of websites
That are causing the problem?

And what's your definition of high cpu usage?
What process is using the high %
When it occurs?

If you run winver
It will give both windows version number
And OS build number
Both of those might also be relevant info
So can do an apples to apples comparison
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Like I said any site that uses java doesn't make any difference which one they all do it, the wife plays on some java games but the one it does it on the most is when I am playing zynga poker via facebook. If I leave zynga and open another tab CPU load goes down, but soon as I go back to zynga it shoots back up. This has been tested with extensions installed and with no extensions issue is still there no matter what.

My definition of high CPU usage is like any other definition when the CPU is being stressed which also sends the temperature high what other meaning of high CPU usage can I give!

On this MSI board it gives you the temperature reading on the led motherboard monitor once I open up zynga the fans will spin faster and the temperature shoots up straight away usually hitting anywhere between 85/92 degrees this seems way too much just because it's stressing with a java based game. So like I have said in my 1st post the main processes that are using high % are browsers all 4 of them that I have tried.

What version of windows 11 I am using doesn't make any difference because it did the same under windows 10 but here is the version I am using

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 24H2
Installed on ‎30/‎03/‎2025
OS build 26100.4061
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.84.0

For something to do this on windows and not happen on a 2 different linux operating systems tells me this is a windows issue.
 
Lord Alibaski said:
My definition of high CPU usage is like any other definition when the CPU is being stressed which also sends the temperature high what other meaning of high CPU usage can I give!

On this MSI board it gives you the temperature reading on the led motherboard monitor once I open up zynga the fans will spin faster and the temperature shoots up straight away usually hitting anywhere between 85/92 degrees this seems way too much just because it's stressing with a java based game. So like I have said in my 1st post the main processes that are using high % are browsers all 4 of them that I have tried.
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High temps/high fan RPM doesn't necessarily mean high CPU usage, mainly due to the boost behaviour of these CPUs. That's especially true when you're using a £30 air cooler (admittedly they're good for £30) for a 16 core CPU.

What is the percentage CPU usage from task manager?
 
Usually hitting between 77-88 percent though just tried it now CPU usage isn't that bad but temperature is hitting 77 degrees it's just weird this is only doing under windows but is perfectly fine under linux.

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Lord Alibaski said:
Like I said any site that uses java doesn't make any difference which one they all do it, the wife plays on some java games but the one it does it on the most is when I am playing zynga poker via facebook. If I leave zynga and open another tab CPU load goes down, but soon as I go back to zynga it shoots back up. This has been tested with extensions installed and with no extensions issue is still there no matter what.

My definition of high CPU usage is like any other definition when the CPU is being stressed which also sends the temperature high what other meaning of high CPU usage can I give!

On this MSI board it gives you the temperature reading on the led motherboard monitor once I open up zynga the fans will spin faster and the temperature shoots up straight away usually hitting anywhere between 85/92 degrees this seems way too much just because it's stressing with a java based game. So like I have said in my 1st post the main processes that are using high % are browsers all 4 of them that I have tried.

What version of windows 11 I am using doesn't make any difference because it did the same under windows 10 but here is the version I am using

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 24H2
Installed on ‎30/‎03/‎2025
OS build 26100.4061
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.84.0

For something to do this on windows and not happen on a 2 different linux operating systems tells me this is a windows issue.
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Was asking for some specific sites
Because couldn't remember how to check if
A sites using java
Plus saves me having to hunt for some sites
Not sure i even have java installed not seen the update jave
Pop up in ages will have to check that

A % of cpu usage was what I meant
Should also have probably asked if its only
Stressing single core or multi core
But see you've posted a picture of that now

Yeah I realised you're getting it with multiple versions of windows
I asked which specifically because I have different
Versions and build numbers installed on
Multiple drives
So if possible I could check with exact same
The more things that are the same helps
When trying to rule things out
Don't have Linux installed but do have some bootable Linux distros
So can also look at those for comparison to what happens
In my windows if my cpu usage does same as yours

If its a new build
Would suggest make sure you're on latest bios
Would also make sure you're on latest chipset drivers
Usually motherboard sites aren't as up to date
As chipset manufacturers
May have no bearing on the problem
But won't hurt either

Not at the pc just now
But will have a look in a while at zynga specifically
Can already say vlc and pot player
Never noticed any high CPU usage from those

edit
didnt have jre installed
zynga still plays fine anyway no high cpu usage
installed jre
zynga plays fine no high cpu usage
tried chrome,edge and opera no high cpu usage

windows 11 24H2
os build 26100.4061
 
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Hold up, even if you have Java installed, all browsers will block it anyway. So those browser games can't access Java at all.

According to Zynga's requirements it doesn't even mention Java at all so could be HTML5 based instead: https://zyngasupport.helpshift.com/...what-are-the-recommended-system-requirements/

Weird though that only Windows is suffering from it. Maybe it's some sort of weird scheduling issue? Are you using the latest AMD chipset drivers with the default balanced power plan?
 
All drivers are up to date BIOS is up to date and balanced power plan is set, tried with onboard graphics and with a 970GTX (drivers up to date) so nothing on gpu side either.

Most of the games are played on this site

JavaGames.cc - Play java games online in your browser

Play java/j2me games online in your browser.
javagames.cc javagames.cc

@Orcvader

No browser will just block java when many sites still use it, none of the one's I have tried will just block that one above.

@Tetras

The main thing is mate it didn't do it on my old system this has only just started on this new system and only in windows. I haven't encountered one issue with using Linux it just runs like it should, no high CPU no high Temps unless I am encoding video and then CPU usage & Temps are no way near the same as when using windows.

Just finding this all strange.
 
Lord Alibaski said:
@Tetras

The main thing is mate it didn't do it on my old system this has only just started on this new system and only in windows.
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We can't compare the old system directly though, because these are completely different CPUs. The 1st/2nd gen Ryzen CPUs were a very different beast to Ryzen 7000/9000 CPUs, in their design, architecture and boost/power profiles.

I'd honestly expect your CPU to run fairly hot at 50% load, with the config/cooling that you have.

Lord Alibaski said:
I haven't encountered one issue with using Linux it just runs like it should, no high CPU no high Temps unless I am encoding video and then CPU usage & Temps are no way near the same as when using windows.
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Lord Alibaski said:
Just finding this all strange.
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It is complicated, that's why I'm trying to get to the bottom of what's happening.

Potential issues at play:
- Windows version (24H2 messes with every freaking thing).
- Driver and power management behaviour.
- CPU power and boost behaviour (Windows power plans can make a big difference to this, on their own).
- CPU/GPU offloading due to software emulation and codecs being used (for example, if some kind of wrapper or emulation is being used, the CPU usage could be much higher than native code).
- How the browser is configured and responds to the above ^^.
 
Yet opera is still a chromium based browser
not sure what it does differently
From chrome and edge
And Firefox isn't but that had the issue too

It's a partial solution though
Depends if you're happy to use opera for it
Rather than mess around some more and see what happens
If you uninstall jre
Am assuming you installed it?
 
Jre never been installed and I won't, I told her its online or none at all. There is no need to install it when playing online. I'm just going to put a cheap PC together for her if she wants to carry on playing them.
 
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Lord Alibaski said:
@Orcvader

No browser will just block java when many sites still use it, none of the one's I have tried will just block that one above.
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It will and has been for years: https://www.java.com/en/download/help/chrome.html

Based on the site you linked, a quick test it seems to be translating the Java games to HTML5. This translation layer could possibly be adding more CPU usage. Why it seems to affect Windows more and only certain browsers I'm not sure.
 
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