Windows on Macbook Pro

Thats it, one of the people who I saw mentioning the BC-Windows-OSX slowdown was Major Nelson on Twitter. I've seen it mentioned also when I do a twitter search for OSX sometimes. Sod it anyway, I'll never use the app in the first place.
 
You can't just try and install Windows on an HFS partition. You need to reformat it as FAT32/NTFS. You can do this from within the Windows installation wizard, no need for a tutorial.
 
I tried formatting the HD last night and just putting Windows on, but it said it couldn't install windows on the *** Macbook/Hard driver....Reason why i had to install OS X again. (stars are there as ive forgot what the 3 letters were)

So is it safe to just put windows on? Anyone know of any tutorials?

Thanks a lot

The Windows installer doesn't touch (delete, reformat etc. etc.) an HFS+ (Mac file system) partition. This is why you couldn't get any further. What you have to do is:

Boot from your Mac install disc
Go through until you get the Menu Bar at the top
Select Utilities > Disk Utility
Select your HDD on the left (that is XXX.XXGB *Make* *Model* not the partition that is probably below it)
Go to the Partition tab
Select "Volume Scheme" as 1 Partition
"Format" as MS-DOS (FAT)
Click the Options button and make sure you change the Partition Map Scheme to MBR
Apply all that

Then just boot from your Windows disc and away you go (obviously you'll format the disk NTFS as part of the installation).

It is perfectly safe to do this. You could install Mac OS X again later if you wanted to. The only thing that you don't have access to is any firmware updates for the hardware but that depends of the age of the Mac. Most of the firmware updates come out only when they discover problems in newer Macs.
 
Parallels is absolutely incredible. I can't believe how bloody brilliant it is. Thought it couldn't get any better but you can drag and drop files between the two OS(s) as if they're running as one, it's amazing.

The thing is. Will I still be able to use Bootcamp and boot into it that way to get maximum performance for games?
 
Parallels is absolutely incredible. I can't believe how bloody brilliant it is. Thought it couldn't get any better but you can drag and drop files between the two OS(s) as if they're running as one, it's amazing.

The thing is. Will I still be able to use Bootcamp and boot into it that way to get maximum performance for games?

Parallels can run your bootcamp partition, so yes.
 
Parallels is absolutely incredible. I can't believe how bloody brilliant it is. Thought it couldn't get any better but you can drag and drop files between the two OS(s) as if they're running as one, it's amazing.

The thing is. Will I still be able to use Bootcamp and boot into it that way to get maximum performance for games?

In the parallels preferecnes/options section, you can set the amount of resources (RAM, CPU) that the mac uses to run windows. If you want to run games etc. make sure you pap them right up and you should be fine.

although I think there are still some compatibility issues between the Mac keyboard and windows drivers, so don't expect everything to go completely perfectly....just in case :)
 
In the parallels preferecnes/options section, you can set the amount of resources (RAM, CPU) that the mac uses to run windows. If you want to run games etc. make sure you pap them right up and you should be fine.

although I think there are still some compatibility issues between the Mac keyboard and windows drivers, so don't expect everything to go completely perfectly....just in case :)

Sadly no, you won't be fine, as virtualisation sucks for 3d graphics.
 
Hmmm Parallels 3.0 comes with OpenGL and DirectX support....Crysis runs fine on mine, all be it i dont put the graphics to its very highest. It is only a laptop after all.

Well if its anything like VMWare Fusion then I get about a 75% performance hit.

Barely make 15FPS with no AA and AF in Fusion yet with full AA and AF in Bootcamp I get locked 60FPS [V-sync!]
 
Well if its anything like VMWare Fusion then I get about a 75% performance hit.

Barely make 15FPS with no AA and AF in Fusion yet with full AA and AF in Bootcamp I get locked 60FPS [V-sync!]

Wasn't disputing that, I agree boot camp is by far the best option. But for some people (like me) who only use windows to run 1 program, it far suited me rather than to have to boot up separately each time. And, that it was a bonus it was capable of running the odd game or two.
 
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The Windows installer doesn't touch (delete, reformat etc. etc.) an HFS+ (Mac file system) partition. This is why you couldn't get any further. What you have to do is:

Boot from your Mac install disc
Go through until you get the Menu Bar at the top
Select Utilities > Disk Utility
Select your HDD on the left (that is XXX.XXGB *Make* *Model* not the partition that is probably below it)
Go to the Partition tab
Select "Volume Scheme" as 1 Partition
"Format" as MS-DOS (FAT)
Click the Options button and make sure you change the Partition Map Scheme to MBR
Apply all that

Then just boot from your Windows disc and away you go (obviously you'll format the disk NTFS as part of the installation).

It is perfectly safe to do this. You could install Mac OS X again later if you wanted to. The only thing that you don't have access to is any firmware updates for the hardware but that depends of the age of the Mac. Most of the firmware updates come out only when they discover problems in newer Macs.

Thanks a lot dude for typing that out, your a star! Now just have Vista ultimate on my macbook pro :)

Thanks to others for help aswell.

Does anybody know any sites with the 17" macbook pro drivers for Vista? Search quite a few sites but they all just take me to Intel site and they dont have the drivers on there site anymore.

Was under impression Bootcamp would have them but still can't open up the program even in windows :confused:

Have no sound, lights on keyboard, wifi/wireless and keyboard layout is messed up.

Thanks a lot again
 
You should be able to just pop in your Mac OS Leopard/Snow Leopard disk and it'll install them...it would have come with the MBP.

Hmmm how? I cant see how that would work or how to get it to work?

on a other note though, what a absalutly awsome peice of kit this MBP is! Just tested BF2 / TMN-F / COD4 on it, can max out BF2 and nearly max out TMN-F and cod4 with 2-4xAA @ 1680x1050

Shocked me with it only being a lappy.
 
Hmmm how? I cant see how that would work or how to get it to work?

The disc you use to install Mac OS X with also has a Windows driver package on it (with the autorun file pointing to it...). If it doesn't do anything navigate to the disc in My Computer and find the installer.

Actually how old is the MacBook Pro? If it's one that came with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger then it won't have the Windows drivers on the disc. Should tell you on the Mac OS X Restore Disc (Mac OS Version 10.x.x) :)
 
It says OS X Leopard 10.5.6

Sorted it all now though dude, google put me through to a site what had a program what installs all the drivers. Seems to be working fine.

Only problem im having is i can't get resident evil benchmark to work properly (the game freezes but the sound is still working)
 
I have such a perfect set up now, my parallels setup points to the bootcamp drive. So i can run OSX and XP side by side, with Windows having its own Spaces/monitor. And then when i need the full power on Windows i can just shut down and reboot fully into XP

it works super smooth, Parallels 4.0 is good too
 
I have such a perfect set up now, my parallels setup points to the bootcamp drive. So i can run OSX and XP side by side, with Windows having its own Spaces/monitor. And then when i need the full power on Windows i can just shut down and reboot fully into XP

it works super smooth, Parallels 4.0 is good too

Well done, that's pretty much the same set-up I have. Although I seldom need to boot up entirely in bootcamp, it works so well.

Who said you had to be either Mac or PC...lets everyone be both!!!! :)
 
Well done, that's pretty much the same set-up I have. Although I seldom need to boot up entirely in bootcamp, it works so well.

Who said you had to be either Mac or PC...lets everyone be both!!!! :)
Yep! I've yet to find out what the limits of parallels are.
 
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