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Wolfdale?

All I can say is I havn't seen any 'noticable' difference between using a quad at 4ghz to a dual at 4ghz, apart from benchmarks. I don't use the quad to its full capability, I don't do enough encode or use multithreaded applications enough to justify one so although it is great for those that do, raw cpu speed is what will benifit the applications I use most. Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a quad as extra cores are never a bad thing and the yorkfields are fantastic but they look to be crippled by low multi's apart from the top models which are silly £££'s. So the wolfdale cores make more sense for me. I guess 2mb less cache than the current quads is a little downside to things but I can live with that as again, going from a 4mb conroe to an 8mb quad, I didn't notice a difference in having double the cache. Aslong as the wolfdale price isn't too bad (<£200) thats where my upgrade path is gonna take me.

3d mark will soon be dominated by tri-sli and quad xfire, with multicore cpu's being taken into account in the score. Both of which I would love to own but that sort of speed is really only neccesary for high end benchmarking. A high end dual card(3870's/GTS/GTX/ultra) rig is plenty for todays games, even at high res. I for one have lost faith in 3dmark as it is no longer representative of gpu gaming performance. Gaming benchmarks give a far more reliable account of what a graphics card is capable of, I mean who buys a top end gpu to run at 2048x1024 with no AA/AF? Hopefully this will be resolved with 3dmark08 but I seriously doubt it.

Gone are the days when overclocking prowess decided a good overclocker from an average one. Cash and cherry picked samples it seems now dominate which is sad for the true spirit of overclocking.
 
You will see a faster Super Pi score running these chips at 4.75ghz.


But in real world environments including games its not going to make that much difference.
 
w3bbo said:
All I can say is...waka waka waka
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I can see where you are coming from. The gulf in performance comes at a price but Wolfdale will be enough for most people.

QX chips and high end GPU's dominate the scene because they can pump out impressive figures.

But...the overclocking scene has changed a lot in the last few years. It's much more competitive. Just look at the records on HWbot. Even with custom phase I still dont get into the top 10 in some areas because the competition are all using Cascades and LN2, even with budget CPU's.

There are always going to be those with cherry picked CPU's and the cash to buy the latest stuff. We are going to see much more sponsorship for overclocking in the coming years. Long gone are the days when a HE120.2 would get you a world record on a P4 Northwood. But, I think the 'true spirit of overclocking' is still there.

Ignoring all the overclocking stats, real world the Wolfdale will be an excellent CPU choice for a majority.
 
weescott said:
Ignoring all the overclocking stats, real world the Wolfdale will be an excellent CPU choice for a majority.
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Unless you encode video or video edit or sound edit.

This is where the quad is king.

I find it very easy to max out quad core along with many others.

Can't wait for the plethora of super PI screenies when these chips hit. :p
 
As good as these Penryn based dual-cores are going to be, I'd still consider them as a downgrade from my Q6600.

The Wolfdales will be fun, but not as much fun as a Q9450.
 
easyrider said:
Unless you encode video or video edit or sound edit.
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Video and video editing, yes. But sound ???? I have been a sound engineer for the last 30 years, studio and live. I have never, never, used a computer for mixing (always a desk), and certainly never for mastering. I can't say i have met any professional engineer that has either. Maybe you meen "bedroom productions" ?
 
kitfit1 said:
Video and video editing, yes. But sound ???? I have been a sound engineer for the last 30 years, studio and live. I have never, never, used a computer for mixing (always a desk), and certainly never for mastering. I can't say i have met any professional engineer that has either. Maybe you meen "bedroom productions" ?
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Never heard of protools ?

I studied sound design for FILM, TV and Radio at degree level.

Sound is an integral part of Video Editing so I have no idea what you are talking about tbh.

Sound production/design is an integral part of Radio and TV.

A PC or Mac is an integral part of any modern AVID suite or Recording studio.Along with MIDI sequencers etc..

I'm sure you would know this being a sound engineer?
 
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Initially Intel planned to roll-out its code-named Wolfdale and Yorkfield microprocessors that are projected to be marketed under Intel Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme brand-names on the 10th of January, 2008. But the plans have changed and, according to a news-story at HKEPC web-site, Intel will only be able to release dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo 8000-series (Wolfdale) processors in February, while Intel Core 2 Quad 9000-series (Yorkfield) will only see the light of the day in February or March.
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J.D said:
I just bought this rig yesterday in preparation for wolfdale. I'm hitting 3.2Ghz first boot with this chip so I'm hoping for 4Ghz plus with the E8x00 series :D.

With 4.5Ghz and 4.7Ghz already been shown on Air Cooling then it's looking like it will be fun for us clockers. From moving from X2 3800 @ 2.8Ghz to this e2180 @ 3.2Ghz feels good already and I'm hoping for 3.6Ghz (after writing this post). I wonder what will 4Ghz+ be like? :eek: :cool:. Loving Intel for the overclock so far :).
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What settings did you change in the bios to get your CPU to 3.3? Thanks
 
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