work creeps
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Think this is a staple of every factory type environment. We had one when I used to build Fire Engines, almost exactly like your little issue.
Someone has a quiet word in his ear about how much of a tool he was being, this seemed to work, he chilled out a little, still was an annoying little twerp, I splashed him with muddy water when I was driving a forklift. Little victories - he tried to get me fired for it, yet he was in a "no stand area", he didn't have a leg to stand on.
He made an apprentice cry, this lad had been with us for around a month, wired up a headlamp wrong, so the little twerp decided it was his job to berate him on the floor.
After that incident his cards were marked, the senior techs on each engine got rid of him pretty quickly after that.
Last time I saw him he was moaning about the way a spotty teenager had stacked some cabbage in Tesco.
Someone has a quiet word in his ear about how much of a tool he was being, this seemed to work, he chilled out a little, still was an annoying little twerp, I splashed him with muddy water when I was driving a forklift. Little victories - he tried to get me fired for it, yet he was in a "no stand area", he didn't have a leg to stand on.
He made an apprentice cry, this lad had been with us for around a month, wired up a headlamp wrong, so the little twerp decided it was his job to berate him on the floor.
After that incident his cards were marked, the senior techs on each engine got rid of him pretty quickly after that.
Last time I saw him he was moaning about the way a spotty teenager had stacked some cabbage in Tesco.
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You'd be suprised
Yeah,its exactly these sort of people that get management jobs,Pretty much all the Supervisors/managers i have had before,Had absolutely no people skills and would stab you in the back in a heartbeat if it makes them look good to their uppers.
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Depends on what your company looks for in it's supervisors - I'm guessing he needs to complete his apprenticeship and then spend some time on the tools otherwise it would have been a wasted investment.
It sounds like there is a long run for him to get into any position of power, surely there is a chance one or more of the others apprentices do better than him at college etc so he just moves down the line.
Being brash and leaving dead bodies behind you is not a leadership quality anyone looks for.
It sounds like there is a long run for him to get into any position of power, surely there is a chance one or more of the others apprentices do better than him at college etc so he just moves down the line.
Being brash and leaving dead bodies behind you is not a leadership quality anyone looks for.
Problem is there are always plenty of firms where this works and the get promoted up the ladder rapidly. You then end up with senior management full of incompetent people who cant even do the job and the poo'd on everybody on their way up.
We had one in the last job. I thought the same he will hang himself. He was only a saleman but used to refer to me in meetings as "my team" even though i was the finanacial controller and technically above him.
Roll on two years and he was the general manager and ran the place as the board of directors loved him.
He did later get leave after a massive fallout with the board but the years of him been in charge was hell.
He then took the company to an employment tribanal.
We had one in the last job. I thought the same he will hang himself. He was only a saleman but used to refer to me in meetings as "my team" even though i was the finanacial controller and technically above him.
Roll on two years and he was the general manager and ran the place as the board of directors loved him.
He did later get leave after a massive fallout with the board but the years of him been in charge was hell.
He then took the company to an employment tribanal.
Thankfully nothing like this in my area of work. Everyone is very laid back, I imagine if someone was like this, they'd struggle to find anyone to complain to about it.
Assuming you work for 40 years (37.5h/week), that's a total of 3,250 days at work. You'll spend just as much time at work (if not more) than you will at home. You may as well just get on with your colleagues. If you don't it's going to make those 3,250 days some very long days indeed.
Assuming you work for 40 years (37.5h/week), that's a total of 3,250 days at work. You'll spend just as much time at work (if not more) than you will at home. You may as well just get on with your colleagues. If you don't it's going to make those 3,250 days some very long days indeed.
In all seriousness
Go to a manager about his behaviour and drop a hint to HR (mention stuff like team ethic and being as a power unit, they love this stuff)
In times gone past he would have got a slap and any time he made trouble in the future this would have been dragged up to ridicule but otherwise forgotten. Alas times have changed for the worse somewhat.
Or pass the word around that he is nonce.
Go to a manager about his behaviour and drop a hint to HR (mention stuff like team ethic and being as a power unit, they love this stuff)
In times gone past he would have got a slap and any time he made trouble in the future this would have been dragged up to ridicule but otherwise forgotten. Alas times have changed for the worse somewhat.
Or pass the word around that he is nonce.
Not where I worked - They were promoted out of the way to a different department - Then a few years later reappear as your boss.
Two things got you promotion - being a gimp and seniority -- ie - dead man shoe job.
This has not been put into consideration, I now need to go calm myself down.
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I have worked with people like that before, complete nightmare. One guy used to always report any issues to the manager even when they didn't need to know. Stuff you think he didn't even know about he would log down and it would come up in the meeting. In the end we had a fall out because he said I was bullying him by taking the **** all the time. He ended up ignoring me and keep to himself in the end. Although I wouldn't recommend that approach.
I can't believe what I'm reading here. Put something like laxative or something to teach them a lesson. Having someone unknowingly injest a hazardous chemical of any sort is sadistic. You have no idea what kind of reaction they could have from it.
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Yeah that's the thing on the day shift he's been standing at the end of shift writing down people's names who are sat around cause they've finished and timing people's breaks.
Thing is on nights we have a system, as long as your hours are in its up to you how you work. I tend to blast my hours then have some nice long breaks on a good day I can have nearly 3 hours worth and still hit my targets) so do a lot of others it's gonna be a annoying if he upsets this balance.
He's already stayed late and introduced himself to all the bosses including the manufacturing;manager (big boss) and said to him "if you need any help filling in I'm your man"
The bosses hate him and take the **** out of him too and they don't want him upsetting things, with minimal mange mentioned the night shift is the most productive shift in terms of hours, so they get good bonuses. But they have said if something is reported they have to act on it.
The whole shift has been talking about it it's now a mixture of annoyance and great excitement to see how it turns out. Everyone has various pranks planned and agreements worked out ie "Mr manager fave has been sat doing nothing all shift" *nearest bloke* " no he hasn't he's been helping me with this tricky bit of my job" etc
Oh and our union rep has told everyone if he writes anything down about us to tell him and he'll be kicking off as he shouldn't be monitoring lads.
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I think the guy was counting on the smell to put the dude off.
Anyway the police were involved but I'm not sure how far it went, I don't think he intended to seriously poison the guy.
Yep. We make all the wings. A380 ones go out on a Barge then a ship though
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People like this need to be nipped in the bud quickly. Get someone who is respected by management to bring his behaviour up with someone senior and do it quick.
Also speak to the individual and ask him where in his job description does it say that he is the manager of these people - no one other than their line manager should be monitoring their work and if he has time to be doing this then he can't be giving his own job his full attention.
Turn the tables on the little ****, lie about him (as a group) to management if you have to - he needs to learn that he is part of a team and that his job security is dependent on being an accepted and valued member of the team and stabbing that team in the back will come back to hurt him big time.
People like this are also often psychopaths or sociopaths who don't know any better (new to the work place?) and need to be shown in no uncertain terms the error of their ways.
Also speak to the individual and ask him where in his job description does it say that he is the manager of these people - no one other than their line manager should be monitoring their work and if he has time to be doing this then he can't be giving his own job his full attention.
Turn the tables on the little ****, lie about him (as a group) to management if you have to - he needs to learn that he is part of a team and that his job security is dependent on being an accepted and valued member of the team and stabbing that team in the back will come back to hurt him big time.
People like this are also often psychopaths or sociopaths who don't know any better (new to the work place?) and need to be shown in no uncertain terms the error of their ways.
We had one like this, he was a 32yo man with some rather severe issues, alcoholism being one of them. He used to snitch on us all the time about everything, create work for us, set traps, sabotage jobs we did, etc etc. He was extremely xenophobic so did everything he could to get rid of anyone not white and not British.
He got himself in to a whole world of pain and got sacked on gross misconduct. He really did mess with the wrong people it seems.
He got himself in to a whole world of pain and got sacked on gross misconduct. He really did mess with the wrong people it seems.