Working abroad after finishing my degree

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I'm trying to avoid writing a long, boring post with my life story, but it may turn out that way, so apologies in advance :p

I'm currently in my last few weeks of uni, studying English and French, and should easily graduate with a 2:1. For the last year, I've also worked part time as an area manager for a retail auditing company. I enjoy my job: my colleagues are great, and I was offered the chance of a promotion and full time role once I graduate. However, it requires me to stay in London, and the money they were offering was nowhere near good enough for me to be able to afford to rent even a tiny flat in zone 6, let alone save for a deposit, so I declined.

As part of my degree, I did a placement year teaching English in the south of France and loved every minute of it. The lifestyle was fantastic, and I was paying €500 per month including bills for my own flat by the beach, in a lovely area. However, I don't feel my skills are best suited to teaching: I did a good job, and got an excellent reference from the Lycée, but I enjoy management more and feel I am better at it.

I've done various freelance jobs in the past: chauffeuring, IT support and general admin, and can provide references from solicitors, CEOs, and even a couple of minor American celebrities. I like to think that my work experience would be more impressive to most employers than many other graduates.

I've spent a lot of time looking at jobs based in France, and most either require extensive work experience in very specific fields, or native speaker levels of French. I would say I am 80-90% fluent, but I suspect if I was dumped straight into a high pressure, business environment with French speakers, it would take me a few months to get up to speed.

So, the way I see it, I have two options:

1) Join one of the many 3 year graduate schemes with a British company, accept that it'll mean another 3 years of living with my parents, and hope that I can move on to something abroad. In this situation though, I'd be concerned I'd start losing my French - I learned German to a decent level when I was 17, I've now forgotten all of it. I'd also be a bit gutted at spending 3 of the best years of my life doing something I don't really want to do, living somewhere I don't really want to live.

2) Move out to France with my meagre savings and just take any job I can get, working in a bar or hotel for example. Count on impressing them enough that they promote me, or search for another job as my French becomes 100% fluent. This is risky though - I'd run out of money quickly if I didn't find a job, and could see myself getting stuck in a dead end job with no prospects.

So, what would OCUK do? :p
 
I'd definitely be wary about forgetting your French so to speak if you spent a few years here, but there are things you can do to mitigate it.

I'd be tempted just to move to France and take anything you can get until something half decent pops up (but it's easy for me to say that from behind my keyboard :p). I also imagine French companies are more willing to employ a Brit if they are based in France and are inherently more fluent in the language among other things.
 
You clearly enjoyed your time in France and you don't seem too fond of having to stay at home for 3 yrs before moving on, so option 2.

Plus, there's a lot of red wine in France and its very cheap!
 
As someone who is 43, married with two kids and recently turned down an offer of working abroad for the sake of the family - do it now when you have chance.

Tbf, this: take risks while you still have plenty of time to change course, learn from mistakes and have few responsibilities. Should it not work in a year or two, you'll still have something interesting on your CV (much better than just a gap year or random travel) and you can go after local grad schemes then, having tried to go after the dream, etc, with an easy heart.
 
Tbf, this: take risks while you still have plenty of time to change course, learn from mistakes and have few responsibilities. Should it not work in a year or two, you'll still have something interesting on your CV (much better than just a gap year or random travel) and you can go after local grad schemes then, having tried to go after the dream, etc, with an easy heart.

THIS^^^

I recently moved abroad, and to be honest in hindsight I wished I had had the courage to do it sooner.

I did the move in my mid 30s with a wife, 2 kids and 2 dogs to develop my business. Risky initially but it has paid off in spades after only a year.

You are young enough to roll the dice, and also to make a mistake and head back to the UK if it does not go to plan.

Enjoy it buddy while you can. When you had a wife and 2.4 children, its gets complicated and the risks increase.
 
Go Abroad. enjoy a better working/social life balance and enjoy the sunshine.

I am looking for a place abroad at the moment been contacted about a job in the Philippines wanted to take it but first year of house ownership and a wedding a few months away it wasn't the right time at all

everyone I know that has took the leap abroad has only great things to say about doing it
 
Set yourself a goal and a deadline. If it doesn't work out, you can always come back and start looking at graduate schemes. I've never seen any that stipulate that you have to be fresh out of university to apply.
 
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated! Interesting that you all seem to agree with me going to France: I wish I could say the same for my parents :p

Having paid out £27k to put me through uni, they would unsurprisingly be less than overjoyed if I went off to work in a bar / yacht in France, and think it would put me behind everybody else in terms of career progression / saving for a house deposit etc.

A fairly large portion of me couldn't give a **** what they think, but equally it'd be far easier moving away with their support, rather than the knowledge that every time I call them they'll just rant about how stupid and immature I am.

This is one of the reasons why it'd be far easier if I could get something vaguely professional over in France, or at least something which has a clear progression to a proper career. But if I can't find anything like that, I feel like I should still have a go and see what happens.
 
Life's far too short to let work and a "need" for house ownership to rule your decisions.

I only work 3 days a week in a slightly stagnated career path for a decent enough wage in a glorious place, and I am far happier than when I was stupid enough to be chasing the career ladder at one of the "Big 4".
 
What have you got to lose? Nothing.

If you don't do option 2, I'll **** on your chest.

Just make sure you have a plan of some sort. Doesn't need to be a solid one, but an idea of what you're going to do, keep changing it if needs be, but either way, do it.
 
If you're worried about losing your language ability, look at doing a language meetup. There are plenty in London.
 
What have you got to lose? Nothing.

If you don't do option 2, I'll **** on your chest.

Just make sure you have a plan of some sort. Doesn't need to be a solid one, but an idea of what you're going to do, keep changing it if needs be, but either way, do it.

Thanks. Out of interest, how did you end up living in France? Did you find it difficult working there?

If you're worried about losing your language ability, look at doing a language meetup. There are plenty in London.

That's a great idea actually. I don't want to speak to soon, but I may have got myself an interview for a job based near Monaco. It's literally my dream job, so provided everything pans out as I hope over the next few weeks, I'll go down there in late May, bank on impressing at the interview, and if I don't get the job use the opportunity to hand my CV in to every place I can think of when I'm there!
 
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