World Cup 2010 - Quarter-finals **spoilers**
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As far as I see it, pretty disgraceful on Suarez but Ghana got a peno with the last kick of the game (and he rightfully went), that's an absolutely golden chance and the right decision imo. Awful penalty though and that's on him. I think that you could put any of the 20 outfield players in the same position and most, if not all would do the same, probably mostly out of instinct.
Harsh on Ghana but that's football
Can't understand the outrage, nobody was this outraged when Kewell did the exact same thing (against Ghana too iirc?) a few days ago ..
Harsh on Ghana but that's football
Can't understand the outrage, nobody was this outraged when Kewell did the exact same thing (against Ghana too iirc?) a few days ago ..
Maybe Suarez didn't even think about it and just did it automatically, I bet a lot of other players would do the same in the final minute.
I would not call it cheating, he misses the semi final and Ghana got a penalty kick which is punishment enough.
I would not call it cheating, he misses the semi final and Ghana got a penalty kick which is punishment enough.
Some of us are objective enough to complain about any cheating...
OH NOES I'M ON MY HIGH HORSE HELP ME DOWN.
Time for bed I think.
Can almost guarantee it was all instinct. I'm an incredibly fair player and never do anything to screw over anybody I play but I've instinctively handballed it before, the thought never crosses my mind but in that split second your body does what it wants to do.
I very much doubt he had a think about what he was about to do and thought 'yeah I'll screw Ghana over here!!' - it just happened. Bet he was absolutely gutted too
I'm not the one that's been offended by tonights "deplorable state of affairs".
So how are you going to punish the whole team? Make them play with no boots? Soak their shorts in Deep Heat?
The team were penalised by having a penalty awarded against them.
Did you not see the way he played tonight? LOL. A dirty player suarez, no doubt.
Had this happened to England, I'm certain thered be calls for harsher penalties for blatant cheating.
As others have said, Ghana had their chance tho. A shameful way for uruguay to win, but Ghana can be extremely proud of their performances. On paper, people would probably have been backing them to lose every single game they've played.
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Bahaha, Melo, so many people have been talking about how brilliant he, and Diaby are. Both have been beyond abysmal in the world cup, both responsible directly for so many mistakes and goals that led to their teams going out. Melo was horrific today, I think I remember one good tackle(we'll call that luck) a great pass the commentators said, I say a 10 yard wide gap and a very obvious Robinho run to pass into.
Own goal, ignored his marker for the second goal, who scored, he didn't pressure him, didn't jump didn't notice he had moved a couple yards away, didn't react, then a truly pathetic red card by a pathetic player. Seriously, Brazil are WORSE defensively with him in the team, if they played an attacking midfielder instead of him Brazil could have been brilliant, sucks to be them.
Uruguay, its hard, most people would put up hands infront of their face as a simple reaction, it didn't appear to have been a freekick in the first place so I think going to penalties wasn't an unfair way to finish the game, especially as Uruguay had a clear as day penalty for which Pantsil should have been carded, maybe even red because it was so obviously deliberate.
Frankly Pantsil's panicked reaction as he made a mistake and he thought they would score, was exactly the same level of "cheating" as Suarez, I don't think either is worse than the other, except one got a penalty, the other didn't.
Feel very sorry for Gyan though, even though I thought he dived a lot throughout the tourny and wasn't his biggest fan in terms of fairplay, would be a shame to see any player take the blame solely for something like that, like Baggio years ago, no one deserves the kind of crap he got.
Own goal, ignored his marker for the second goal, who scored, he didn't pressure him, didn't jump didn't notice he had moved a couple yards away, didn't react, then a truly pathetic red card by a pathetic player. Seriously, Brazil are WORSE defensively with him in the team, if they played an attacking midfielder instead of him Brazil could have been brilliant, sucks to be them.
Uruguay, its hard, most people would put up hands infront of their face as a simple reaction, it didn't appear to have been a freekick in the first place so I think going to penalties wasn't an unfair way to finish the game, especially as Uruguay had a clear as day penalty for which Pantsil should have been carded, maybe even red because it was so obviously deliberate.
Frankly Pantsil's panicked reaction as he made a mistake and he thought they would score, was exactly the same level of "cheating" as Suarez, I don't think either is worse than the other, except one got a penalty, the other didn't.
Feel very sorry for Gyan though, even though I thought he dived a lot throughout the tourny and wasn't his biggest fan in terms of fairplay, would be a shame to see any player take the blame solely for something like that, like Baggio years ago, no one deserves the kind of crap he got.
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Was probably the best game of the tournament so far (although I only watched it from second part of the second half)
Ghana should have won. The Uruguayan blatantly handballed what is definitely a goal. There should be a rule where Fifa ban them from the next world cup as a punishment. Very blatant unsportsmanlike conduct imo.
They take penalties like England though (Ghana)
Ghana should have won. The Uruguayan blatantly handballed what is definitely a goal. There should be a rule where Fifa ban them from the next world cup as a punishment. Very blatant unsportsmanlike conduct imo.
They take penalties like England though (Ghana)
Ermmm it didnt get the right result though did it??....in that Ghana missed the penalty and Suarez misses the semi final.
Far as im concerned it all evened out...ghana had their chance to finish the game off with the last min penalty but Gyan missed or are you going to blame Suarez for him missing??...
And oh how people seem to miss Pantsils cynical challenge...should have had a red card and a penalty but i dont see anyone here making a fuss about it.
Well said mate
...cant believe people are moaning about the handball which got ghana a penalty then Suarez gets a red card and misses the semifinal and yet people still moaning about it..
Surely whether you get away with it or not has nothing to do with it being cheating. Cheating is the act, getting away with it or not is the result, they are two separate facets of the whole.
For example, if I hide an Ace up my sleeve in poker and then use it to win a hand, I have cheated. I've got away with it, but I have still cheated. If I win a formula one race with an illegal turbo I have cheated. If I run a marathon and use a car to do 25 miles of the route I have still cheated. If I pick up and move the white ball to a more favourable position while my opponent isn't looking in a game of snooker, I have still cheated. Equally if I get caught doing any of those things, I have still cheated. One is the act, the other the consequence. Two different aspects, but cheating.
Having said all of that I don't think he consciously put his arms up, I think it was an instinctive reaction. So I wouldn't say it was intentional cheating anyway, just wanted to point out that cheating doesn't require you to get away with it or not in order for it to be cheating
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Brasil just imploded after Holland got a goal, quite shocking actually, they'd looked so good and strong in the World Cup.
I'm a bit gutted for Ghana! I really like them, and the man with a pot on his head.
I'm pleased for Uraguay! I love their attacking flair
I'm a bit gutted for Ghana! I really like them, and the man with a pot on his head.
I'm pleased for Uraguay! I love their attacking flair
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This tbh, the speed that all happened I suspect it was just reflexes. Especially coming so soon after his first block.
People will quietly forget that Ghana dived to get the freekick in the build up to that and that Uruguay should have had a penalty earlier.
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Brasil just imploded after Holland got a goal, quite shocking actually, they'd looked so good and strong in the World Cup.
I'm a bit gutted for Ghana! I really like them, and the man with a pot on his head.
I'm pleased for Uraguay! I love their attacking flair
I don't know how long I've been saying it for, players like Melo, are truly awful players, people said his performances for Brazil in the confed cup were brilliant, they were anything but, Silva was outstanding in the confed cup and has been great in the world cup, he makes tackles without killing players, heck he even had a great shot and showed some fantastic footwork as he "did" 2 players to retain posession and stop Holland from breaking.
Melo is awful and he'll cost you in the games against tough teams, just because Brazil won with him in the team against worse teams, doesn't make him a great player.
Same way Song, Diaby, Denilson have cost us every single time we've gone up against a bigger team. Mistakes not costing you because the opponents aren't good enough doesn't make a player, or a team good.
Brazil have been ANYTHING but strong, they had a fairly weak group, with a Portugal that are nothing special, Simao wasting golden chances and not passing is pretty much what their team is about him, Quaresmo, not great players who can look half decent now and again.
Brazil, well Robinho was fantastic throughout the cup, Kaka has been utter poo, Bastos has been dodgey, Maicon/Lucio have been great and Juan mostly good, Melo has been a disaster, Fabiano's had very little of the ball, he normally gets a lot more involved with interplay in the team. Elano was ok, but he's always been incredibly inconsistant and wasn't particularly great, only against a awful form Kaka was he required. Alves, was shockingly good as defensive midfield in the game Melo missed, he played his role, very very rarely got forward, another case of a player being asked to play a posession and having the discipline to play it, the other player being SWP, who actually played right back when asked to, if only Johnson would ever do that.
Brazil have been flattered so far, with teams that haven't tested them and look how NK gave them a bit of a worry, as did Portugal, neither teams were particularly good.
The Germans really are the only team that have looked good throughout all over the pitch, Spain haven't shown their best but have the quality, playing the wrong team right now though, Argentina, well, we need to see how they do against a team that attacks them, how many teams so far have looked great against weak teams and almost dissappeared when attacked. That game will probably tell us whose going to win the cup.
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A penalty goal might work I suppose if it were instituted along with video replays as in select cases you could substitute the penalty goal for what would otherwise be a certain goal. It might be quite difficult to find a way of punishing the team without going overboard and creating further problems as teams could seek to capitalise on the new rules and then cheat the other way by seeking the punishment for the offenders.
Pantsil was already on a yellow if I'm not mistaken so the colour of the card would have been irrelevant to the end result if he got carded at all.
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Does anyone have a clip of the pantsil moment?
I missed that bit.
I missed that bit.
In the cold light of day I feel very sorry for Ghana. They were cheated not only by Uruguay but by the rules. So unfair, a goal line hardball should not only be a red card but also a goal. The award of a penalty still gives the cheats a chance to get away with even a greater reward.
Anyway we may see a rule change but knowing Fifa I doubt it. To Ghana well done and carry your heads high.
Anyway we may see a rule change but knowing Fifa I doubt it. To Ghana well done and carry your heads high.