***World of Warcraft : Legion***

Psyisk said:
I may come back for this, but WOD looked terrible so maybe not, I have logged a few times in last year and the botters in bg make it unplayable
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I've personally noticed FAR less botters in bg's since Honorbuddy was hit about a year or so ago, so much so it's rare I come across any.

but yeah WoD was absolutely garbage, downloading the Legion beta now and from what I've seen Blizzard are taking it back in a good direction, fingers crossed.
 
Really miss the atmosphere there was in raiding back just before WOTLK arrived. Would love to see it back but will wait and see what Legion is like. If it's anything like Draenor then i think i'm out for good.
 
I do think that in someway LFR was bad for WOW.
I liked LFG but there was something about looking for a pug raid or having to do it with guildies that is missing now.

Realistically though, without LFR I would never have the time to gear up these days.
 
I've always missed wow. I had some laughs and good times on it. I go back every year then realise how much of a headache it has become lol. Think the nostalgia wears off pretty quick.
 
Just found a beta invite in my inbox from 4 days ago! Anyone else got one of these? Trying to figure out if it's anything special or if everyone is getting them.
 
Teaser for some animated shorts they're releasing before Legion, similar to Warlords and the Trials of Shaohao:

 
Woogie said:
That is not entirely the fault of LFR or LFG but a natural progression of a game that has existed over 10 years. I am not saying that they are not partially to blame but peoples lives change, I was 18 when wow was released and 21 when TBC came out, I raided a lot then and through WoTLK but come Cata and MOP I had no time at all to do it due to time commitments. The implementation of LFR means they can keep the player base interested.

What it ultimately boils down to is that the majority of the player base are not hardcore gamers with hours and hours to spend but the casual gamer that has perhaps an hour or two a night or a few hours at the weekend to play and have to cater to those. Both methods of raiding\Grouping\Guilding are still available it just takes more effort to do the old style than the newer ones.

Yes it is a game, but it is business driven. I firmly believe without these things being implemented they would have lost a large portion of their player base and WoW would no longer be viable for them or it would in a drastically scaled back version of what it currently is.
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It still boils down to the fact that casuals just wanted purple gear when blue gear is what they deserved (blue gear in vanilla was still raid ready).

LFR should have been blue gear which was first tier raid entry level. There is no point in dropping purple gear (epic gear obtained via facerolling) as it gives a false sense of progression teaches you nothing about the game. I understand there are tons of casual players but when they have done their 1 or 2 hours of LFR there is not much left except farm/trade. Not sure what they get out of the game unless they believe their LFR epic purple gear is on the same level as heroic/mythic.
 
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