World Of Warcraft

[Teki187]

The pvp system changed dramatically, after all the hard earned time i invested into getting Warlord gear was wasted, kids could grind the gear within a week of constant play and everyone had the gear. Made my time feel wasted and was very sore about it, same goes for every other player who got to the rank.

That wasn't a bad thing, it made pvp more accessible to others and it paved the way for the arena. The High Warlord status was more of a joke then a declaration of skill "lol you spent nearly everyday doing pvp for hours on end to get a title" i remember that too well.

40 Man raids were the highlight of the week, not because they were easier/harder but because of the social path it used to create, 40 people who knew each other well having a laugh as well as progressing was great fun.

To a degree your right, but they where hard.

Gear was balanced and classes were not that overbalanced versus same/other classes, as soon as the next tier of spells came it made many people angry due to the fact some of them were very easy to use, very high critical effects came back and some classes just were simply easier to play.

Classes haven't become easier to play, its just 3 years of people playing them, they find ways to kill other classes easier and faster. When they introduced the expansion they had to up the level cap, so many people wanted it and without it the expansion would be useless. And the way WoW is, it'll never be balanced and they've said that from day 1.

PVP tactics changed from techniques that you needed to master to simple button slamming which is what i hate in most of today's mmorpgs, instead of moving around you can deal very high damage with hardly moving.

Completely wrong. Resilience has now made it more about skill then gear. Sure if you had S1 gear and took on the same class in PvE epics tier 4 then the S1 gear would win, but that's done to pve being good for pve and pvp gear for pvp. The new pvp system requires more skill and techniques then the old pvp system by a large amount.

Grinding money was easy enough if you knew where to go and Potions/enchants did not cost very much and you could just afford to buy an epic mount by the time you were 60 or a few weeks later, now everything is highly overpriced and you need to loose your soul to afford the higher end mounts.

Epic flying mount takes you 2 weeks to get. You do all the quests you have left over. You do the ogrila daily quest and the instance daily quests. And with patch 2.4 you now have even more ways to make money through daily quests, monthly quests and creating pots and enchants or providing the things needed for enchanters and alchemists.

Guilds started to become very elite about themselves even the smaller ones as soon as they started to progress and because the game became easy younger people started to play.

Completely wrong. What happened is guilds mass invite, have 50 active members, then they hit karazhan and have to shave that active 50 down to 10 members for progression raids, so it creates tension. Then if they progress to 25 man that means there still leaving out another 25 members. Its not a easy choice to make but it has to be done.

i could say a lot more why it ended for me and most probably for many other people, it was a great game that turned to the pits. hopefully it will die and a new game will come out that will steal its thunder.

Please dont say anything else, you've put across a completely flawed representation on the current state of WoW and not everybody left because of your flawed outlook.

If you want an example of how WoW in 2.3 is flawed take no further look at the arena and the time invested versus the time it takes to raid and get the same gear.

 

[Squink]

also the lead developer plays a warrior and just recently started playing a mage and since then has made it known that he is unhappy with the buffs he gave to hunters so expect some nerfs to them soon. (like the nerfs to mana drains which he obviously finds overpowered now he plays a mage)

I know Kalgan has admitted to playing a Warrior with his "rockin' a S3 weapon" comment, but I'm interested to know why you think he's playing a Mage. My main is a Mage and the PvP situation is pretty grim at the moment, with pretty much any halfway competent class being a guaranteed loss for me. Hunters, Locks and Shadowstep Rogues are particularly unpleasant. My Rogue and Priest do well, so 'l2p' doesn't really apply.

 

[Sleepery]

I hate the jumpers with a fiery passion that would melt faces.

So it's not just me then

 

[Metalface Mark]

I played EQ2 to start with, and i was used to nwn (online) D&D which is totally more involved in the way you create a charactor and in ways you have to fight bosses.

In any mmo i never felt as attached to a charactor like with nwn. Every mmo is easy as you dont loose xp/items when you die, you can rest wherever and regain health by standing still, which makes it a very easy game. Of course they wouldnt make you loose xp, the kind of people that are in this '10 million' would quit within a day. WoW is easy and very easy to get into, EQ2 feels more hardcore (although not much) the only hard thing about WoW is that you have to play 24/7 to keep up with any end game stuff - this is where it becomes a chore.

But if your a casual player then youll probably get the most enjoyment out of wow just for the reason that its easy to get into.

On another note im sure there is one guy out there who follows me through every mmo i try. Hes the one that always spams you with invites and then writes 'Come' or 'follow' and if you do follow him he always runs ahead in an instance and gets killed straight away (never seems to use heal pots), then starts spamming 'heal'

I always thought wow was quite tough if you did the harder quests, last week though i found myself in an area i hadnt been before with a lot of green quests ,5 levels below me, and it was a breeze and i wondered why i had played it so far struggling along when it could be as easy and enjoyable as these ones had been

 

[S.Cope]

WoW is a very well-made game and is simple fun that just about anyone can pick up and play be it for a couple of hours a day or... all day everyday. However it is very addictive, I have recently unsubscribed from it after playing it since release 3 years ago and racking up a total playtime of around 150+ days. This probably isn't that much compared to some people .

Anyway, I guess you should try it at least.. Just don't be surprised if you find yourself not doing much else

 

[.Lethal]

This thread has turned from the OP post asking about the game to more mature WoW players arguing over how its downfall (or uprising) has happend.

Can we not agree that players who have played for at least 2/3 years prefer the game before TBC and the players after or around TBC agree that TBC is great? (looking at the general consensus of this thread).

Lets get back on topic

WoW is good to try if you have never played it and are fairly new to MMORPG's it is easy to pick up and play.

 

[wordy]

WoW is a great game it's simple to pick up and play, looks good and has an engaging storyline.

One thing I always make time to do is to read the story to the quests, instead of just clicking accept or complete.

 

[griffy]

I gave up Wow around 8 months ago, and am very tempted to get playing again. So whats changed in that time? My Shadow priest is level 70 and had decent gear back in the day Very Happy halfway thru Karazhan and I quit the game!

I've heard there's a lot more solo, group and raid content been added, but what about the Talent spec, have we been nerfed into submission as I suspect?

Thanks in advance,

 

[.Lethal]

I gave up Wow around 8 months ago, and am very tempted to get playing again. So whats changed in that time? My Shadow priest is level 70 and had decent gear back in the day Very Happy halfway thru Karazhan and I quit the game!

I've heard there's a lot more solo, group and raid content been added, but what about the Talent spec, have we been nerfed into submission as I suspect?

Thanks in advance,

Priests are getting a Spirit buff in 2.4

There is quite a bit of new solo content but nothing great. More grinding/solo content. ie Ogrila faction for gold (daily quests). Consortium has added new content and if you have an Epic Flying mount there is the Netherdrake part of the story added into the game.

 

[griffy]

A spirit buff might not be enough to make me love my Shadow priest DPS again
I have an epic flying mount already, and had neutral rep with the netherdrake dudes when I quit, so should be able to get a nice new mount easy enough, but I dunno If I can be bothered with more grinding and hassles.

 

[Wang Computer]

WoW is a great game it's simple to pick up and play, looks good and has an engaging storyline.

One thing I always make time to do is to read the story to the quests, instead of just clicking accept or complete.

Yes, but if it's story you want, there are games that absolutely wee all over World of Warcraft. Games that don't require an expensive online account and a high tolerance for illiterate morons.

 

[Washout]

Give it a whirl - can be fun if you excercise lots of self control and get into a fun guild. It offers something for everyone I guess and you know the old saying "you can't please everyone".
PvP changes for how you aquire gear was a must btw. Gaining those previous ranks meant continous play for long periods of time. It was a joke. It still takes a lot of time to get the gear but you can now actually go on holiday or take breaks from the game without fear of losing your stupid ranks and honour points.
The PvP balance is however a bit off. The game is balanced for 5v5 not 1v1 so some classes are very overpowered against others - especially if you don't have a cookie cutter pvp talent spec. I play a mage with fire spec - frost is the pvp spec. Rogues, hunters, locks, and any of the healing classes specced holy spank me silly.

 

[.Lethal]

A spirit buff might not be enough to make me love my Shadow priest DPS again
I have an epic flying mount already, and had neutral rep with the netherdrake dudes when I quit, so should be able to get a nice new mount easy enough, but I dunno If I can be bothered with more grinding and hassles.

Took me 2 weeks to get the Netherdrake. There is only a certain amount you can do per day and it took about 1 or so hours per day.

In the end its just another looking mount but I did make 800g+ in the process

 

[wordy]

Yes, but if it's story you want, there are games that absolutely wee all over World of Warcraft..

True and only and idiot would argue for WoW's lore over LOTRO lore. But it still stands that WoW backstory and quest storylines are quite good.

Games that don't require an expensive online account and a high tolerance for illiterate morons.

Depends on your tolerance for those morons I guess, personally I have a good laugh when reading some of the arguements in stormwind and Barrens chat, and I'll even admit to very occaisionaly stirring it when a particularly bad tempered argeument breaks out

 

[Vixen]

Took me 2 weeks to get the Netherdrake. There is only a certain amount you can do per day and it took about 1 or so hours per day.

In the end its just another looking mount but I did make 800g+ in the process

It took me a week to get my first Netherdrake. You can only do 10 of the quests per day, but egg handins are unlimited. If you know where all of the eggs spawns are, and check them regularly at quiet hours, you can get most of your rep through them. I also made about 3000g in that week, which went towards epic mount number 2 .

 

[Andrew1978]

I know Kalgan has admitted to playing a Warrior with his "rockin' a S3 weapon" comment, but I'm interested to know why you think he's playing a Mage. My main is a Mage and the PvP situation is pretty grim at the moment, with pretty much any halfway competent class being a guaranteed loss for me. Hunters, Locks and Shadowstep Rogues are particularly unpleasant. My Rogue and Priest do well, so 'l2p' doesn't really apply.

When leiah/Jadefury (warlock/Hunter) from his guild posted about the upcoming changes/nerfs to druids sometime last month it was mentioned in that thread, which has since been deleted.

 

[dirtybeatfreak]

No offense, but if you think WoW is the best of its kind, then you really should have played some of the MMOs in the late 90s. In particular, UO during 1997-2001 made WoW look like windows solitaire. It did things 11 years ago that WoW can only dream of doing.

(throw in early EQ1, AC1 and pre-NGE SWG and it rapidly becomes clear how shallow WoW is in terms of MMO depth)

To the OP, sure WoW is worth getting into, generally speaking I find the MMO genre to be much better value for money than any other genre, definately worth playing WoW if you're new to MMOs. At the very least you will get several months enjoyment out of it.

YES YES YES! Uo was/is the best mmo ever! (i play wow now tho )

 

[Timdog]

I know him well.

You can spot "that bloke" coming a mile away. He'll be the one that jumps.

Everywhere. He. Goes.

He jumps in Ogrimmar.
He jumps in Darnassus.
He jumps in Ironforge.
He jumps in instances.
He jumps in duels.
He jumps in trades.
He jumps when he's mining.
He jumps when he enchants.

The <censored> even jumps when he's afk.

And oh boy is he in jumping heaven when you join his group. Bouncy bouncy bouncy, like the Ever Ready Bunny jacked up on meth, stopping only to grace you with classics like "lol hve u got ne wool" or "my bro kiled tha tree in ashenval". It's a difficult choice.. would I prefer him to engage me in this heady intellectual dialogue, or just watch him jump for an hour?

I saw who I consider to be some sort of Elite Jumper in Ironforge last year. Perhaps he was the King of Jumpers, I dunno. But that guy had it down pat, he barely touched the floor, so graceful was his space bar adventure. He'd mapped a cry and laugh macro and targetted me while i was at the auctionhouse. Bounce bounce bounce, lol, lol, lol. Bounce bounce bounce, cry, cry, cry. The following week, I saw him again, in Ironforge doing the same thing to a bunch of people by the Postbox.

I hate the jumpers with a fiery passion that would melt faces.

hey lay off. i play a mage, if i dont jump while spamming ice lance it just doesnt feel right

 

[.Lethal]

It took me a week to get my first Netherdrake. You can only do 10 of the quests per day, but egg handins are unlimited. If you know where all of the eggs spawns are, and check them regularly at quiet hours, you can get most of your rep through them. I also made about 3000g in that week, which went towards epic mount number 2 .

Yeah the eggs were heavily sought after the day the Netherdrakes came about (which is when I grinded for mine) People were spamming general chat offering 150g per egg location!!!