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Worst point for Gfx cards since 2005 - Surely this will flow through to pricing??

Just need to find a figure you can justify and buy whatever is best at that price point. Unfortunately that figure tends to be ridiculous these days

The right point is when you feel your pc is struggling to keep up. What do you have now?

Regarding the article, it's just a correction after an over inflated covid period.
 
I should say so....Lol, It wasn't supposed to be like this:

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Was it, Jensen.
 
The price consumers pay is dictated by many factors but so long as the data center market holds up for them I can't see them dramatically dropping the price for consumers products which at this point is being propped up by their goodwill and brand name.
 
Far too much money sloshing about still.

I think the best time to upgrade now could be in 6 to 12 months time if leading economy/country recessions start hitting and the whole GPU range has released. Though difficult to tell, people still seem to just have too much cash.

A month ago when rx6600 and rx6700 hit £200 and £300 was the best time for lower/mid end to upgrade. I just felt this and decided to go with a rx6600 at £185 second hand shop. I'd have preferred to buy from OC, but pricing increases, and my limited use of a GPU dictated otherwise. Seeing a card like this go up in price this far on, no ta.

True budget gamers could/can pick up a b-grade 6500xt for £100 from OC, that is more realistic for such a short life card.

Prior to this, catching a 3080 or near any GPU on release during that time at msrp would have been ideal. The 3060ti FE was reasonable value for a good while too. The 5700xt before those would have been the best upgrade, even now it still holds a £200 value somehow, but selling it at £800 if you had one was really the best choice.
 
In 2006, the 8800 GTX launched at $600.

That would be just a bit under $900 in today's money when adjusting for inflation.

16 years later, the 4080 (if we pretend the 8800 Ultra = the 4090) launches for $1200, so 33% up in price.

The 8800 GT, generally considered the best bang-for-buck card for MANY years, was $350 in 2007, or $500 now, making the $400 (at launch) 3060ti FE still the best vfm card in recent years.

Sucks being a PC gamer at the moment, my mate has a borked 2080ti, and no real options that don't fleece him.
 
Lots of people upgraded last gen as the perf uplift was decent - plus DLSS 2.0 worked well.

Cards of that gen do 1440p very well. Still not that many (relatively) game at 4k and the 4000 series is aimed squarely at 4k+ UWQHD, multi monitor setups and VR. Expect enthusiast cards and prices on an enthusiast forum.

We'd all be better off wishing everything else would go down, like home energy, fuel and everything else that has doubled (milk). If you aren't at 4k, there's always a 6900XT (which is still very capable at 4k) for £7-750, which was a £1300 card.

Only FOMO is those looking past the much cheaper last gen, wishing those prices on current gen. Mid next year prices may fall to what people think they should be worth - but I feel people will become conditioned and buy anyway. A 4090 is still less than 1 years half decent golf club membership - it'll last longer too.
 
Hedge said:
The right point is when you feel your pc is struggling to keep up. What do you have now?
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Oh I'm fine really - four main PCs in the house - two are 2080ti, one is a 2070ti and the other is a 1080ti so none are exactly groaning, I can't wait if need be!
 
There's no doubt the market is in a woeful state today.

You can buy 3 year old hardware at >MSRP, or get AMD hardware that really didn't perform well with RT, or spend over £1k for the halo tier products. Nothing inbetween!

There doesn't seem to be any real incentive for NV & AMD to release their midrange cards, and the 4070 TI is looking decidedly MEH based on leaks.

Have been trying to play VR with a Vega 64, and it really does suck. But there's no way I'm paying over 1k for a GPU.
 
Terrible state of affairs on the value front. In my view even slightly less extortionate pricing wouldn't move me to buy and the lack of compelling AAA titles doesn't help manufacturers either. It's going to take an almighty climb down from the manufacturers to restore pricing sentiment but I just don't ever see that happening in the next 2-3years.

Not only are we not getting a new gen 1440p card for £400 but you'd be considered insane to think a 2yr old 3070ti/6800 level card should be available for 400 something.
 
krooton said:
my mate has a borked 2080ti, and no real options that don't fleece him.
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A used 3070 or 3080 would be a good investment, they’re available for not a massive amount compared to launch prices. Still running a 3080 at 3440x1440p and it feels like the perfect match for that res.
 
Woodsta888 said:
Lots of people upgraded last gen as the perf uplift was decent - plus DLSS 2.0 worked well.

Cards of that gen do 1440p very well. Still not that many (relatively) game at 4k and the 4000 series is aimed squarely at 4k+ UWQHD, multi monitor setups and VR. Expect enthusiast cards and prices on an enthusiast forum.

We'd all be better off wishing everything else would go down, like home energy, fuel and everything else that has doubled (milk). If you aren't at 4k, there's always a 6900XT (which is still very capable at 4k) for £7-750, which was a £1300 card.

Only FOMO is those looking past the much cheaper last gen, wishing those prices on current gen. Mid next year prices may fall to what people think they should be worth - but I feel people will become conditioned and buy anyway. A 4090 is still less than 1 years half decent golf club membership - it'll last longer too.
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the 6900XT and even 6800 which i used for 4k, worked really well.
 
katie279 said:
Would welcome thoughts as have been keeping half an eye out for the right point to upgrade!

www.techspot.com

Desktop graphics card sales reach lowest point since 2005

In Jon Peddie's 2022 GPU market summary, Q3 shows the lowest desktop graphics card sales total since at least 2005. Like many other products, GPUs received a...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com
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Certainly now is not the right time.

I really don't know what is going to happen in the market. NVIDIA seem hell-bent on trying to up prices to ridiculous numbers. At the moment, by all accounts, they are going to do the same again with the 4070 and 4070ti. The market is still in utter chaos even though we are passed many of the reasons that caused that chaos.
My answer to all of this is to just try to put it to the back of your mind. I don't think anything is about to suddenly change. Just forget about it until this time next year. See what happens.
 
Tis an odd time. I got a 6900XT and didn't get on with it. So my choices are limited to a 4090/80 or an 'old' card which I don't want.
4080 seems pointless piecewise so I don't really see any other option than getting a 4090 as my next card. Wish I just kept the one I got initially, hey ho.
 
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NZXT30 said:
Sales are significantly down what more do you want from PC gamers?
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But that's not what it says.

The article states

"The post-lockdown slump that has affected PCs, tablets, smartphones, and other devices is a primary factor"

and

"Dedicated desktop graphics sales have gradually declined over the last two decades as laptop and integrated GPUs became good enough for growing numbers of consumers"

It doesn't mention anything about upgrading gamers.

And if NVIDIA believe that as well, then prices are going nowhere.
 
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