Worth dropping uni for a job?

mp3kla said:
I'm loving Uni, was a great move and I've met a load of decent people and it's helped me mature and become more responsible / independant.

The course is enjoyable and I'm keeping on top of work, it's just if I was offered the place in a job I'd be going for after my degree then I might aswell save the extra year of debt.

They train me up on a couple of courses, so I guess they'd be taken with me if I ever left. I think the only reason I'd drop from Uni is if I had the option to study alongside my career in the future, or possibly to finish off my degree whilst in this job.

I'm swaying a lot more towards staying at Uni for the main reason:

What if I don't enjoy it?
What if I move off to NZ and need to leave my job?
What if I get stuck at the same position and wage for the rest of my career?

All of these wouldn't be a problem if I had my degree. Who knows? Maybe I'll get an interview and ask me to come back after my degree anyway.
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Why would you need to move off to NZ?

Surely in a position with having a job and being independent you wouldn't have to do anything. It would be your decision (and hopefully a proactive one)!
 
In most scientific fields a degree or equivalent is usually mandatory and a PhD will get start you higher up and give you a better chance at reaching the top.

In your situation I would apply for the job and at interview explain the situation. See what the job would actually be, suggesting that you dont need experience as they will teach you the lot sounds like to me that you will be on low pay for a number of years and working as someones assistant. This might be fine for you as you will get the experience you are after but the pay will probably lag behind and if there are so few jobs in the field then internal promotion might not be that easy anyway.

We had someone come in and talk about forensics as a career (MSci Chemistry degree), I cant remember but I would assume as they were targeting us as would be graduates that they were interested in graduates and the guy giving the talk probably either had a degree or a PhD.
 
markyp23 said:
Why would you need to move off to NZ?

Surely in a position with having a job and being independent you wouldn't have to do anything. It would be your decision (and hopefully a proactive one)!
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I may be moving to NZ with my parents in a couple of years, been planning it for a while and they're waiting for me and my brother to be in the position to go out there before they make the move. Another reason why getting my degree would probably be the better option.
 
mp3kla said:
I may be moving to NZ with my parents in a couple of years, been planning it for a while and they're waiting for me and my brother to be in the position to go out there before they make the move. Another reason why getting my degree would probably be the better option.
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You've answered your own question then.
A degree will be very useful in NZ.
 
Put working off as long as you possibly can in your life. When it is unavoidable work as little as possible; unless you love what you do.

People might say you are a waste of space and don't contribute to society (one which really doesn't give a **** about you by the way) but when they are struggling in the rain to get to work on time, busting their balls so they can get that laughable pay raise so they can get taxed more so more can be spent on bombs and guns, you are cosy under the duvet.

Who is the winner? Be happier, choose life, choose bed.

:D
 
[TW]Fox;10506089 said:
Don't drop out.

What happens in 20 years time when you wish to become very senior in your field but cannot becuase you dont have the paperwork?
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That's utter rubbish. If you're good at your job within an existing company, there is nothing stopping you going into more Senior positions. Actually, it won't stop you going into a Senior role else where either if you have the experience.
 
Bloodshot said:
That's utter rubbish. If you're good at your job within an existing company, there is nothing stopping you going into more Senior positions. Actually, it won't stop you going into a Senior role else where either if you have the experience.
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It's best to be prepared, my dad worked at motorola for like 10 years and then lost his job... without a degree he'd probably be screwed, even with all the experience.

Also he's going into a scientific industry, anyone sane would get a degree if going for one.


anyway, it's stupid to waste 2 years of uni when you're near the finish line, I can't even believe you were considering dropping out for the first job that came along lol it's crazy
 
Bloodshot said:
Actually, it won't stop you going into a Senior role else where either if you have the experience.
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Experience says it all and I bet the recent two positions filled by Spie were done on experience and not paperwork.
My CV is rubbish :
3 x GCSEs in 1974
ONC in Engineering 1978
Michelin Apprenticeship
and then nothing for 33 years.

However, on Sep 7th I volunteered myself into a juvenile prison. One month ago I was invited into the education classes and I've had experience that no other employee has ever had.
Normally they're set on, meet the the Trainees and then run off.
Two weeks ago the bosses got wind of my music experience and invited me into the office.
They asked about qualifications : none to speak of.
They asked about experience : 37 years playing in various acts all over Europe playing 4 different instruments + vocals. Running and owning recording studios etc.
They said : your experience walks over any qualifications.
They need proof which I gave them last week and they told me I can teach straight away as long as I do courses.
Last week they put an application pack in my hands so hopefully something will happen soon.
I also looked up at an Education matrix they'd just put up on the wall and music features very heavily next year.
Hopefully my experience has walked over any education - wish me luck.
 
Beansprout said:
Let's see, medicine, City work, scientific work......
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Excluding a career in Medicine (and a few other niche career paths) I say experience is 100% more valuable than a degree. Like I said earlier most degrees are useless in the real world.

However, the OP should stick it out as he has done two years. He is in that time at University when the fun of partying has worn off and the study is starting to get hard. Stick to it. No pain, no gain.

oh and even careers than need degrees still need experience and experience is better. I don't go to hospital to see the junior doctors to help with my medical problems I go to see the top consultant because of her vast experience and years of knowledge and not her multiple degrees and masters and so on (she has a lot of qualifications! :D )
 
Dropping out of uni was one of the better decisions I made...I'm doing a job I enjoy with good prospects, and getting the uni education part-time. Having a degree is useful, but going to uni full-time isn't the only way to get it.
 
[TW]Fox;10506089 said:
Don't drop out.

What happens in 20 years time when you wish to become very senior in your field but cannot becuase you dont have the paperwork?
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20 years down the line, the fact he has or doesn't have a degree is irrelevant, it'll all be about experience and what he has achieved in his job.
 
my girlfriend has a mate who is a top forensics expert........he dropped outta uni with nothing and got this job that sounds a lot like the one youre thinking about (or not as the case may be) having worked his way up the field he is now highly regarded in the police division he is in.....on the other hand my gf has several high qualifiactions in micro biology/geneaology etc and works for a charity organisation and loves it :) not highly paid but very rewarding work.
its a funny old world!!
(just a ramble..ignore if u wish lol )
 
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