Worth getting a Raptor?

helmutcheese said:
@ mdixson, There is no such HDD feature as SATAII so you obv dont know what your talking about. ;)

I think you mean SATA300 and its makes ZERO difference to any single HDD, only the interface at MOBO if you Raid HDD's and get near 300MB/Sec.

SATA300 was new and WD did state they prefered to use a more mature interface at that time.
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sorry I forget being on a computing degree means I know nothing about plator density and its effects on performance when coupled with sataII/300 ...
 
the samsung f1 230 seems to be out of stock everywhere..... well everywhere ive looked, this seems to be a mistake on ocuks part seeing as it looks like it would be a good seller
 
mdixson said:
sorry I forget being on a computing degree means I know nothing about plator density and its effects on performance when coupled with sataII/300 ...
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Everyman and his dog claims to have a Degree, its nothing but a bit of paper.

And most of them are actually clueless.

There is no such thing on a HDD as SATAII now get over it (and what the hell are you talking about Platters for, Im talking SATAII being SATA300 in tha way most mean it)


" The term SATA II has grown in popularity as the moniker for the SATA 3Gb/s data transfer rate, causing great confusion with customers because, quite simply, it’s a misnomer.


The first step toward a better understanding of SATA is to know that SATA II is not the brand name for SATA’s 3Gb/s data transfer rate, but the name of the organization formed to author the SATA specifications. The group has since changed names, to the Serial ATA International Organization, or SATA-IO.

The 3Gb/s capability is just one of many defined by the former SATA II committee, but because it is among the most prominent features, 3Gb/s has become synonymous with SATA II. Hence, the source of the confusion.

For an accurate description of Serial ATA capabilities and the official guideline to SATA product naming, please see the details below. "


You want to argue with the Commitee that invented SATA, visit bellow ;)



http://www.serialata.org/namingguidelines.asp
 
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Plator density means you get data closer together; this means the disk can read it faster. Its a simple matter of physics; and you need bandwidth to sustain higher read/write speeds...

There was in fact a big article about it in micromart and custom pc not that long ago

ps: I dont care about what you wish to call an interface
 
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Your still talking BS TBH.

The fact remains Im correcting you that there aint a SATAII HDD and the fact a SATA300 (what you really mean) is no faster due to the Interface than a SATA150 HDD, nothing else you mentioned is in this convo so why are you mentioning platters and heat etc ?.

I never called the interface anything, the SATA Committe did. :)

I think you need go back to Kindergarden not UNI.

P.S SATA150 or SATA300 makes no difference to a Single HDD, until a HDD can get near 150MB/Sec it will stay that way.

It only matters to the Mobo for now for Raid.
 
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helmutcheese said:
Your still talking BS TBH.
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He's not talking BS, platter density (as well as other technology improvements) is the reason why the Raptor is outperformed by recent 7200rpm drives in almost every realworld and synthetic benchmark.
As for SATA2 vs. SATA300, pointless pedantry. And SATA2 drives have more than just a faster interface.
 
A Raptor won't load games as fast, well it depends upon the title but most current games use large files so the higher transfer rates are of more import than access times. But there isn't that much loading involved so it's just going to be a matter or a few seconds difference, just as the Raptor only gets a few seconds boot time advantage.
But I'll take a quieter, larger and cheaper drive over a Raptor any day of the week. The transfer rates are much more useful.
 
I've had 74gb & 150gb versions of the Raptor, the 150gb versions are faster & quieter, so I guess they must be a lot better than 36gb versions.

As for Raptors, well I switched from one to the WD 500GB (WD5000AAKS) & I can tell you that the Raptor was much more snappier in XP & game loading times were quicker by a few seconds.

I will probally try one of the new 320GB platters just to see if they really are on par with a 150GB Raptor, I'm a game player if I can trim a few seconds off load speeds etc then I don't mind spending money.

I look at benchmarks & to be honest without testing yourself in games etc you wont 110% know for yourself.

ICH10R on the horizon with the new P45 chipset, that could give a boost with Sata II drives?? Cant wait to find out.
 
guys sorry to jump on this thread, but didnt want to waste a new thread on what may be construed as newbish question!

i currently have a 150gb 16mb sata raptor (not the x version)

i use it as my gaming drive solely for BF2.

my mobo didnt have native sata connectors so i bought an adaptec (silicon image) SATAConnect 1205SA pci host card, its two port and is just using channel 1 now for my raptor.

i was thinking of buying another identical raptor here from oc. and thinking about raid0, purely for speed, not bothered about redundancy, as i am a ghost image freak and can just replace one if it fails and re-image it. just the speed.

what would i need to achieve raid0 if i had the other matching drive?

is it a hardware solution, raid add in card? or can i just add the other drive to my 2nd sata port and create some kind of software raid0?

btw i am using xp pro sp2

thanks very much for any comments or info!
 
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