Would welcome thoughts and advice

[milamber1971]

Hello to all you awesome peeps, hope you are all doing well during this difficult time.
Any advice and thought on what i am going to post would be more than welcome as i'm umming and aahing over things and could do with some ideas/thoughts/guidance/divine inspiration, you catch my drift
I'm thinking of getting the pieces for an build over this year as i'd like to upgrade from my current pc and go for something different
This is what i had in mind:-

Corsair 4000X iCUE RGB Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Black
MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
Intel Core i7-10700K
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
Corsair RMx Series RMx1000 PSU
Samsung 980 Pro 500GB M.2 2280 (for OS and programs)
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 (for games)
Seagate 2TB Barracuda (for movies/music etc)

Now the next bits are the ones i would like advice about, for GPU:-

MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio

Either of these so thoughts on those would be nice, also looking at CPU coolers and have these as possible candidates, they are:-

Noctua NH-U12A
be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Noctua NH-D15
Noctua NH-D15S

Not sure what the difference is between the last two, other than colour
I also have 3 x LL120 RGB fans that will be going in to the case in addition to the ones it comes with.
And the monitor i am looking at getting is:-

Samsung Odyssey LC32G75TQSUXEN 32"

Sorry if this is a lot to get through, hopefully people more knowledgeable than me will be able to offer advice

 

[milamber1971]

Thankyou for all the advice/feedback in answer to

What's your current PC?

my current pc spec is:-

Intel i5-8600
16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz DDR4
Gigabyte Z370P Motherboard
MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
Corsair Carbide 400C
3 x LL120 RGB Fans
BenQ Zowie XL2430T
Seagate Firecuda 2TB
250GB WD Blue 3D Nand M.2
Corsair RM750x PSU
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

I have a preference for the Intel/Nvidia route (had problems in the past with AMD, but that was a few years ago), but would obviously consider AMD/AMD route, i currently have a 24 inch 144hz gaming monitor and would be looking to get a 32" 144hz preferably, regarding the SSD/HDD combination, i was unsure of what would be best, i'd definitely want my games to load faster , at the moment they are on the 2TB Firecuda, realistically i would like them to be on an SSD, if i have missed anything please let me know and i would endeavour to answer it

I would recommend AMD route

what motherboard would you be thinking..?

You could consider the ryzen 5800X

thats what butter30 mentioned also

Cpu coolers get the chromax (black) version if you go Nochtua the be quiet is also an excellent cooler.

You dont need a 1000w psu a good 850w would be more than enough.

I was thinking of getting 1000W PSU to future proof myself
How hot would the CPU run if i went the Ryzen 5800x route compared to the i7-10700k?

 

[milamber1971]

You could Drop in a 9900k into your system and a 3080 and your good to go

Yeap this is the route I'd go down with your z370 system already in place, a 9900k costs around £300 and is essentially the same performance as a 10700k without the faff of having to change motherboards

i hadnt actually thought of that, any ideas on 32" 144hz monitor...? is it worth going G-Sync...?

 

[milamber1971]

You mite need to update the bios on the motherboard for the 9900k to work.

Monitor with gysnc.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...e-led-backlit-curved-gaming-mo-mo-006-gi.html

Thanks for that micky, will definitely investigate further, and will let you know, might even pick your brains a bit more closer to the date, lol

Thoughts on this :-
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...le-curved-led-backlit-ultrawid-mo-00b-gi.html

Also, if i decided to go the AMD route, what GPU would be best to pair with CPU etc

 

[milamber1971]

What are the thoughts on the RTX3060Ti...?

 

[milamber1971]

Anyway unless having more money than knowing what to do with it, PCIe v4 NVMe isn't sensible buy and then Samsungs are more or leass badly brand overpriced.
You could get 2TB PCIe v3 NVMe for lot less than those two Samsungs.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...olid-state-drive-zp2000gm30021-hd-3bc-se.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds200t3x0c-hd-55z-wd.html
Heck, you could get 2TB PCIe v4 NVMe for less:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...olid-state-drive-zp2000gm3a002-hd-3bx-se.html

So of those you linked Esat, which would your recommendation be, do i put the OS and programs and games on one SSD or do i use 2, 1 for OS/Programs and 1 for Gaming..?

Its a good card but will it give you the performance that you want? This might help you decide which card you want https://youtu.be/Owrk_OnaPJo

Changing the nvme drives to pcie 3 will save you money towards say a 3080.

, Good thinking ASMB

The above complete build is because i want to adapt my old pc for someone with special needs, and could effectively give them a complete PC and getting myself a more up to date one, hence me looking at case, psu, monitor etc, also want to RGB my system as well, hence the iCUE 4000x, there is a question i do want to ask about that, in my current system i have 3 x LL120 fans, in the iCUE 4000x it has SP120 fans, will the LL120's work with the SP120, or should i look at a different case and just purchase some more LL120's, thoughts would be nice

The last thing is, is it worth going to AIO route with something like the https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...id-cpu-cooler-360mm-cw-9060048-hs-042-cs.html or
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...id-cpu-cooler-280mm-cw-9060047-hs-041-cs.html or https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...id-cpu-cooler-240mm-cw-9060046-hs-040-cs.html, and if i did go for the iCUE 4000x would i go for a black or white, and if i went for white then aesthetically speaking all white would be what i would be after, or am i just being too picky and arsey, lol

 

[milamber1971]

something i was going to ask, the fans that come with the Corsair iCUE 4000x, can i take them off and use https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...an-pack-with-lighting-node-pro-fg-06c-cs.html i already have , or alternatively what about purchasing https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...rgb-pwm-fans-120mm-triple-pack-fg-07d-cs.html, colourful i know

 

[milamber1971]

OP, what are you hoping to achieve with the upgrade exactly, are you way upping the resolution?

A 8600 is still a very competitive 6-core CPU, except in games that make good use of more than 6 threads.

If I were you, I'd rather buy a 3080 and keep the 8600, over e.g. a 3060 Ti and upgrade the CPU.

my current pc will be eventually be going to someone so it can be adapted for special needs, so i am looking to treat myself to a new complete system to play the following games, Diablo 3 and Diablo 4 when it comes out, Overwatch and Overwatch 2 when it comes out, Cyberpunk 2077, Wolfenstein : The New Order, Hearthstone, Dead by Daylight, and a few other games.
Looking to future proof myself for a few years regarding the system, its kind of a treat to myself after a really rough and crappy couple of years recovering from a serious accident, my intent is to RGB my new rig, and its the debating of things like SSD's, GPU's, weighing up the options and getting advice from some fantastic people like :-
mickyflinn, joxeon, EsaT, butter30. ASMB, lee32uk and yourself

There will probably be lots of hair pulling by me, ummming and aaahing, until i decided what we will end up with, obviously when i do decide on the parts and such, i will take photos and give a huge shout out to all those involved, its things like do i go for a good air cooler for my CPU with good air flow through the case or do i go for an AIO, lots of little decisions that will affect the end result

 

[milamber1971]

Anyway unless having more money than knowing what to do with it, PCIe v4 NVMe isn't sensible buy and then Samsungs are more or leass badly brand overpriced.
You could get 2TB PCIe v3 NVMe for lot less than those two Samsungs.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...olid-state-drive-zp2000gm30021-hd-3bc-se.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds200t3x0c-hd-55z-wd.html
Heck, you could get 2TB PCIe v4 NVMe for less:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...olid-state-drive-zp2000gm3a002-hd-3bx-se.html

Of those SSD's you mentioned, which is the best bang for the buck so to speak

 

[milamber1971]

Here we go again, i've written stuff down, looked at stuff, had some thoughts, then thought some more then thought even more and decided, i will write down the possible system ideas and bounce them off you awesome peeps, some of the ideas are from you fabulous bunch, i'll try and do quotes as to who said or recommended what.
Here goes:-

CPU: Intel i7-10700k/Intel i5-10600k if i go the intel route or Ryzen 7 5800X/Ryzen 5 5600X if i go the AMD route
MB: MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi if going intel or ASUS RoG Strix X-570E if AMD
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz or Kingston HyperX Predator 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz or Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
CPU COOLER: BeQUIET Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15S Chromax or Noctua NH-U12A
SSD: WD Black SN750 2TB M.2 2280 or Firecuda 510 2TB PCIe 3.0 or Firecuda 520 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM
CASE: Corsair iCUE 4000x or Lian-Li Lancool Mesh or Phanteks Eclipse P500 or Corsair iCUE 465x
PSU: Corsair RMx 1000w
RGB Lighting: Corsair iCUE QL120 x6 or Corsair iCUE LL120 x3 (if I use the 3 x LL120 I have in my current build)
Monitor: Gigabyte G32QC-EK32

Would like to say thankyou to EsaT for the SSD's and RAM ideas, Butter for the 5800x idea, mickyflinn for the monitor idea, ASMB for the GPU advice, and also thanks to Tetras, Lee32uk, Joxeon for input too, let me know what you all think of the above, and your thoughts on possible system, once we've agreed i'll then be pricing it up and going shopping this year

 

[milamber1971]

Thanks mickyflinn, what about the other stuff...? thoughts...? i am liking the monitor more and more now

 

[milamber1971]

I tend to get the best value for money as im tight.

M2 pcie3 v pcie4 theres no real performance diffrence on General use so take your pick.

Motherboards are good but if you go AMD the MSI x570 tomahawk Wi-Fi is excellent value.

Thanks again for that

 

[milamber1971]

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[milamber1971]

Your welcome.

When your ready put your final list together and we can check.

Westetern digital sn 550 is also excellent value.

Will definitely do that, its going to be a process over this year, so things might change, knowing my luck they probably will, lol

 

[milamber1971]

If you have the money, I personally don't see an issue with over-spec of the PSU, the latest graphics cards are pretty darn power hungry so a little extra in reserve won't hurt.

The Intel Z590 boards are available for pre-order now, not sure of benefits.

I would pick the 5600X over the 10600K.

AMD is definitely part of my thought process, i suppose i've always been an intel baby at heart (amd in the past had problems with) so i'm not discounting that out, i think it would be a case of weighing up the options and also pricing as time goes on, as i mentioned to mickyflinn, its going to be over this year so not all in one go

 

[milamber1971]

Thanks mickyflinn, what about the other stuff...? thoughts...? i am liking the monitor more and more now

another one to throw in the mix, what do you think of this as a monitor...?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...-backlit-curved-gaming-monitor-mo-0ba-as.html

 

[milamber1971]

The Gigabyte one mentioned earlier is apparently better.

If you scroll down to the conclusion, they recommend the Gigabyte over the Asus.

https://www.displayninja.com/asus-xg32vq-review/

Looks like i wont be considering that, shall go with what mickyflinn suggested

 

[milamber1971]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...le-curved-led-backlit-ultrawid-mo-00b-gi.html what is the difference between that one and the https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...e-led-backlit-curved-gaming-mo-mo-006-gi.html other than 2 inches and price, or is that it