Would you abandon Windows in favor of Linux for gaming?

Dj_Jestar said:
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Well how can you develop something brilliantly successful without putting money into it? Once you've developed this World altering program would you not want money for it? As I mentioned earlier some of the Open Source people moved to closed source (Nessus is the main one I can think of) the reason for this is they wanted to get paid for a good product and rightly so.

I, like most people, go to work, do a job and get payed so should the software developer. I think an Operating System which barely costs more than a game is an absolute bargain. It's the main thing you'll be using all the time when using your PC. For me Windows is perfect. In the 18 or so months I've had Vista I haven't had one system crash. The PC has been on for weeks without restarts or shut downs. It's very stable, very easy to use and very configurable. Would I like to learn how to use a PC again and go with Linux or would I like to pay £45 to continue to use the PC in a way I like?

Easy tbh.



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Bhamid said:
IE updates are intrusive and demand that it should be restarted etc. I'm talking about consumers, not businesses who probably use IE anyway.
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Can't remember an IE update I've had to restart it (except when I moved from IE7 to IE8). Or are you on about restarting IE? and is that inconvenient when you're deploying patches?



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m4cc45 said:
Well how can you develop something brilliantly successful without putting money into it? Once you've developed this World altering program would you not want money for it? As I mentioned earlier some of the Open Source people moved to closed source (Nessus is the main one I can think of) the reason for this is they wanted to get paid for a good product and rightly so.

I, like most people, go to work, do a job and get payed so should the software developer. I think an Operating System which barely costs more than a game is an absolute bargain. It's the main thing you'll be using all the time when using your PC. For me Windows is perfect. In the 18 or so months I've had Vista I haven't had one system crash. The PC has been on for weeks without restarts or shut downs. It's very stable, very easy to use and very configurable. Would I like to learn how to use a PC again and go with Linux or would I like to pay £45 to continue to use the PC in a way I like?

Easy tbh.



M.
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BitTorrent, Linux, Eclipse IDE, to name just a few very successful, powerful, 'world changing' pieces of software that are still open source and free.

Also, you seemingly have grave difficulty noting the difference between an arbitrary product license, and maintenance fees.

You've also failed to notice another point in your own post. "Learn again" .. so if you'd decided to use Linux before you even touched Windows, you'd not have a problem?
 
No I wouldn't because that's all I would know. Though Windows is more appealing from an out of the box point of view. If I had learned Linux first then it would have been easier to adapt to it. Though I do enjoy playing games and thats where Windows comes into it for me. A vast majority of the time spent on the PC at home is games.

Linux in most parts is free but not all versions are. I wouldn't call any of the apps World changing. Useful, very much so, but could I live without them using a PC on a day to day basis and the answer is yes where as without Windows, well I don't thnk I'd want to use the PC. I'd probably have a console.

One of the only free world changing apps I can think of that is free is the Grid stuff. I think that is vastly World changing and okay they can't charge you because you are using your resources for them but it's very clever and being put to an absolute brilliant purpose.


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rsatd said:
Um, so what world changing apps are there for windows?:confused:
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This debate has quickly degenerated into Linux Vs Windows, so i dont really want to get too much further into it as it is an moot argument on many levels. Linux is a different beast to Windows, on the whole more people use Windows than Linux, Windows is a more refined top level user experience, Linux is arguably technically better from the ground up, both offer many things to many people.

However, with re: to world changing windows apps, although it is also a mac product (or has been since 92 anyway), Microsoft Office altered how the office as we knew it worked. As well as how personal productivity worked.

When I was a kid, my parents used old IBM pcs with clunky old word processors, they had no spell checking, no interface to speak of, they were effectively text editors with the ability to double space.

The unified nature of the Office suite was unique, sure there were other packages before it that seeded it's ideas, and there have been other packages since that mirror what it does (some would argue they do it better, but thats not the point here).

Excel changed how the spreadsheet was considered, it became a genuine tool for business almost overnight.

Finally Powerpoint (plus multimedia projectors, though PP even drove the development of these) has totally altered how we present our work. It killed static overhead projectors almost overnight as a primary method of presentation.

MS Office was a world changing suite of applications.
 
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Linux in most parts is free but not all versions are.
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That could be interpreted to be a little vague. More specifics please :) Which "versions" aren't free?

MS Office was a world changing suite of applications.
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Yes it WAS. However in typical MS fashion it then dominated the market with this product and stifled innovation for years to come.
 
m4cc45 said:
No I wouldn't because that's all I would know. Though Windows is more appealing from an out of the box point of view. If I had learned Linux first then it would have been easier to adapt to it. Though I do enjoy playing games and thats where Windows comes into it for me. A vast majority of the time spent on the PC at home is games.

Linux in most parts is free but not all versions are. I wouldn't call any of the apps World changing. Useful, very much so, but could I live without them using a PC on a day to day basis and the answer is yes where as without Windows, well I don't thnk I'd want to use the PC. I'd probably have a console.

One of the only free world changing apps I can think of that is free is the Grid stuff. I think that is vastly World changing and okay they can't charge you because you are using your resources for them but it's very clever and being put to an absolute brilliant purpose.


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Linux is free. It is impossible to use Linux operating system in any form of product license agreement. Period. The GPL, which the Linux kernel is licensed under, prohibits any version thereof having a proprietary user license agreement. You cannot charge people to use your Linux operating system. You can charge for your support and maintenance.

Also, Linux is more world changing than you think. A lot of what is in Windows is only there because Linux (and/or MacOS) had it first, and Microsoft implemented it into their own OS. Vista's Aero and Mac's Aqua? All available as AIGLX on Linux years before either were available, just for one example.

You mention MS's Office suite as being the trend setter.. like pish it was. Word Perfect, Word Star, and Lotus apps (Notes, etc.) were the trend setters. MS either bought or copied, then stifled for a decade.
 
It was always destined to do so. The answer to the OP is an obvious one... which ever full fills the role of a gaming platform best.
 
If linux supported games natively even if they were directx games, then I would at least consider using linux.

But since it doesnt and there are always issues with directx being from microsoft, Im pretty sure majority of gamers dont even consider linux as an alternative. And I mean gamers here, not those who lightly game a little sometimes, but real gamers who would upgrade their PC solely to be able to play a game better.

If there are ways for linux to play games then they should be announced more publicly. Have to say my experience of linux is not that great: one of using a dos-like command prompt just trying to do things that in windows I could just do with couple of clicks of the mouse. Perhaps now it is much better, I dont know.

One thing though is that recently my dad's PC decided to delete its own boot record or something and I had to fix it using a linux boot disc, and I must say for a temporary OS it was very nice graphically and did the job I needed it to.

But then I kept windows on as otherwise he wouldnt have a clue how to check his email :P
 
Linux is free. It is impossible to use Linux operating system in any form of product license agreement. Period. The GPL, which the Linux kernel is licensed under, prohibits any version thereof having a proprietary user license agreement. You cannot charge people to use your Linux operating system. You can charge for your support and maintenance.

Also, Linux is more world changing than you think. A lot of what is in Windows is only there because Linux (and/or MacOS) had it first, and Microsoft implemented it into their own OS. Vista's Aero and Mac's Aqua? All available as AIGLX on Linux years before either were available, just for one example.
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That's what I was trying to coax him into :)

Also, I'd say having a huge majority of web servers on the internet running on Apache an example of some "world changing" Open Source software if you ask me. Particularly when you think the software was only released in 1995 and it allows people to host websites at no cost at all by using Linux and Apache.
 
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