Would you eat it ? Lab grown meat
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Because I like the taste of meat but I trz to minimise my environmental impact and animal suffering. But I am not quite vegan
Large parts of the UK countryside is in the pristine condition it is in due to animal farming. Remove this and that environment will suffer....
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Sure, why not?
This is ridiculous.
The environment has been functioning OK for millenia. It's never needed farming. Surely this is obvious?
Ecosystems find natural Balance. It's humans and intensive farming that disrupts everything.
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Lol what. No part of farmed land is pristine.
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I'm former carnivore turned vegetarian and I would definitely eat it provided there's no mutation risk
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Well yes, the rural idyll typified by a patchwork of rolling verdant pastures is entirely attributable to animal farming.
Take animals out of the equation and that becomes something different.
Anything else you'd like to tell us about fake meat?
Do you both seriously believe what you have written here? Not wanting to get off topic but literally the opposite is true.
Animal farming is responsible for huge amounts of pollution and is far more polluting than arable farming. That is before considering that monocultures of pasture and the fields full of cereal crops needed to get the animals through the winter are utterly horrific for native species and local habitats generally.
Stop thinking of farmed land as pristine countryside, it really isn't. It's industrialised land that has next to nothing living on it other than the thing being farmed.
You are correct to say if the farms didn't exist, the environment would be something completely different, the UK should be covered in forests from top to bottom and was before humans cut them all down.
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That isn't the countryside. That's farmland.
The main reason I left the east of England is the lack of wildlife and wilderness.
Fields are virtually devoid of biodiversity
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Even here in Wales the hills are stripped of forest due to upland farming. It's not as barren as east of England. But the destruction is vast. Hills should be covered in natural Woodland.
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But that’s not true unless you’re referring specifically to modern agro-chemical based practices.
Traditional, organic pastureland is alive with biodiversity- think of the many species of wild meadow flowers, small mammals, butterflies and other insects. Not to mention the hedgerows.
The east of the country may be a bit of an ecological desert but there’s still plenty of rich diversity in the south west, nowhere near as much as before but still there, nonetheless.
Insignificant in the grand scheme.
Its so depressing driving back to my parents down a14 as the countryside becomes field after field after field. Sometimes barely a hedge row at all. I dunno how I put up with it for so long.
Have a look at the board of nature scotland
This is not the vast majority of farming.
The majority is intensive.
Besides this is just maintaining what a normal that farming already created.
What do you think happened before humans came along? We would have had orders of magnitude more biodiversity.
The world doesn't need farming. Not all farming is devastating. But intensive farming is. Be it crop or animal.
What do you think was there before the sheep? Ah yes, those things call native species again.
Think huge herds of red and roe deer, wild boar, wild horses, wild sheep, beavers and other predators such as wolves and lynx to keep populations in check. Scotland even had bears and reindeer before we killed them all off although I think reindeers and bevers have now been re-introduced.
Now we just have a few deer which we need to hunt for no reason other than to keep populations in check and off 'farm land' (otherwise known as the land which was their natural habitat).
EDIT: I forgot the legendary polecat that we also killed off.
EDIT2: I forgot the forests, some of the earliest historic records put tree coverage of England at 15% in 1068, by 1902 this was just 5%. It is likely the majority of the UK was forest once upon a time.
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