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Meh

I own about 6 SSDs in total.

Crucial M4 and Samsung Evo 840 are two of them.

The M4 had a show stopper bug (the 5200 hour bug), the Evo 840 had a speed degradation bug. Both were fixed via firmware updates after they were pointed out.

I would happily buy a Crucial or Samsung SSD in the future and recommend them to others.

I tell you what this makes me sad, I still own 0 because I'm too lazy to install the OS again.
 
Meh

I own about 6 SSDs in total.

Crucial M4 and Samsung Evo 840 are two of them.

The M4 had a show stopper bug (the 5200 hour bug), the Evo 840 had a speed degradation bug. Both were fixed via firmware updates after they were pointed out.

I would happily buy a Crucial or Samsung SSD in the future and recommend them to others.

Well said.

This issue with these Samsung SSDs has been blown out of proportion by some people. Yes, it would have been better if the problem had been avoided, but for the majority of users, the symptoms have been very minor. Yesterday I updated a laptop with an EVo that I installed when it was new, nearly 12 months ago. The HDTune benchmark before the update suggested it was performing terribly. After the update, with a much more healthy benchmark, the only difference we noticed was Windows booted up nearly a second faster. I will therefore continue to use and recommend Samsung SSDs, as I don't think this issue was serious enough to change my mind. However, if the problem returns, or these TLC based drives start failing after just a few years use I'll reconsider.
 
I don't blame you. Re-installing is a chore!

I.. it's been 3 years since I told myself to buy one... I've done several installs since then but they've always been in the heat on the moment where I've screwed it up but right now I've got it perfect how I want it... maybe with windows 10. The worst thing is I could really do with the space.
 
I was told cloning can limit the performance of the SSD. Not sure if that's true or not.

I have found that there's no noticeable difference between cloning or a fresh install. Well, apart from the fact that a fresh install will often give a degree of better performance, due to there being less "***p" on the system (as mentioned in the previous post).

As far as cloning to an SSD is concerned, you should make sure that certain Windows "features" are disabled, such as auto defragmenting. The Samsung Magician app has a "OS Optimization" facility, that seems to take care of the OS settings that need to be adjusted to optimise the performance of the SSD. I know there is a utility (there may be more) http://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=ssd-tweaker that can be used to make sure everything is setup correctly for the SSD.

The only other thing to mention is that after cloning it is best to check that partition alignment is correct. As far as I am aware, Samsung's own clone utility does make sure that partition alignment is correct.

And just one more thing, SSDs perform better when AHCI is enabled. Although it's likely that your system (if it's fairly modern) has AHCI enabled, it would be wise to check. Some BIOS's have the option to enable AHCI mode on the SATA ports. If it's found that it isn't enabled, it should be. However, a word of caution. If you`ve cloned your OS onto an SSD (or even carried out a fresh install), and you then enable AHCI mode, it's very likely that you won't be able to boot into Windows, as the AHCI drivers will not be present. There is a Micrososft "Fix it" to solve this issue. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

Once "fixed", you can then check that you have the latest AHCI drivers installed (rather than the default Microsoft ones). For many Intel based motherboards, this can be achieved by downloading and installing Rapid Storage Technology from the Intel website.

So apart from all that, it's easy to upgrade from HDD to SSD. ;)
 
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the only change once you've cloned is the actual drive itself,all the data will be exactly the same as your previous hdd/ssd

its quick and hassle free
 
I tell you what this makes me sad, I still own 0 because I'm too lazy to install the OS again.

I don't blame you. Re-installing is a chore!

Heh, true. More so after the OS is installed. All this stuff to reinstall/update. Do you go the USB drive route for OS or Optical Drive? I have to dig out the sata/power/ide/molex/usb kit for the drive. Luckily it's always handy.

I prefer the OS X way. The Apple store has everything readily handy. Windows updates are always scattered. Or in different locations across their sites. Even Apple has OS installers updated with the latest release for you to create a new/updated stick. You've to hunt on Microsoft.

Well said.

This issue with these Samsung SSDs has been blown out of proportion by some people. Yes, it would have been better if the problem had been avoided, but for the majority of users, the symptoms have been very minor. Yesterday I updated a laptop with an EVo that I installed when it was new, nearly 12 months ago. The HDTune benchmark before the update suggested it was performing terribly. After the update, with a much more healthy benchmark, the only difference we noticed was Windows booted up nearly a second faster. I will therefore continue to use and recommend Samsung SSDs, as I don't think this issue was serious enough to change my mind. However, if the problem returns, or these TLC based drives start failing after just a few years use I'll reconsider.

Look at all the bugs Windows has had for over the past decade. Why don't they whinge about that?

I think the point is that a fresh Windows install is always quicker than an old Windows install.

I have found that there's no noticeable difference between cloning or a fresh install. Well, apart from the fact that a fresh install will often give a degree of better performance, due to there being less "***p" on the system (as mentioned in the previous post).

….and feels less dirty. :p

As far as cloning to an SSD is concerned, you should make sure that certain Windows "features" are disabled, such as auto defragmenting. The Samsung Magician app has a "OS Optimization" facility, that seems to take care of the OS settings that need to be adjusted to optimise the performance of the SSD. I know there is a utility (there may be more) http://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=ssd-tweaker that can be used to make sure everything is setup correctly for the SSD.

The only other thing to mention is that after cloning it is best to check that partition alignment is correct. As far as I am aware, Samsung's own clone utility does make sure that partition alignment is correct.

Not impressed the OS doesn't take care of itself like OS X and Trim Enabler for 3rd party drives.

And just one more thing, SSDs perform better when AHCI is enabled. Although it's likely that your system (if it's fairly modern) has AHCI enabled, it would be wise to check. Some BIOS's have the option to enable AHCI mode on the SATA ports. If it's found that it isn't enabled, it should be. However, a word of caution. If you`ve cloned your OS onto an SSD (or even carried out a fresh install), and you then enable AHCI mode, it's very likely that you won't be able to boot into Windows, as the AHCI drivers will not be present. There is a Micrososft "Fix it" to solve this issue. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

Once "fixed", you can then check that you have the latest AHCI drivers installed (rather than the default Microsoft ones). For many Intel based motherboards, this can be achieved by downloading and installing Rapid Storage Technology from the Intel website.

So apart from all that, it's easy to upgrade from HDD to SSD. ;)

That was one weird thing I noticed with the Asus Crosshair IV Formula and AHCI 6GB/s. In the BIOS storage section, the drives no longer list except under the bootable section/black screen bootup. Lists under Intel boards… Or it's an Asus thing?
 
If the price was right then yes of course, although next time looking at the market it would probably be a MX100.

I`ve just ordered an MX100 for my next system build. The price was right compared to the equivalent EVO.

With the negative publicity that EVO SSDs have been getting over the past few weeks, and the competitive price of Crucial SSDs, Samsung might well start to lose some sales.
 
The M4 had a show stopper bug (the 5200 hour bug)

Oh lawd this has been driving me crazy over the last few days. I've got an M4 in my media PC which started to BSOD almost every hour. I had no idea what it was or that the 5200 hour bug was a thing. I updated the firmware on it on the off chance that it would work and it did. Now I know specifically why. :p
 
I`ve just ordered an MX100 for my next system build. The price was right compared to the equivalent EVO.

With the negative publicity that EVO SSDs have been getting over the past few weeks, and the competitive price of Crucial SSDs, Samsung might well start to lose some sales.

Doesn't take much to spread bad word across social media. Even when it's been fixed. Reminds me of the Cliff Richard incident.
 
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