WOW, Graphics card or processor bottleneck

robskinner said:
Sorry disagree

When playing the hard mode encounter in WOLK every little helps, when one small mistake can mean a full raid wipe on a 15 min encounter I want to avoid me being the one who due to low FPS or whatever makes a mistake.

Also if CPU is limiting it allows more mods with less impact.

Thanks for your comment but I disagree.

You need to upgrade hardware to maintain wow performance they are adding new stuff all the time which impacts the game. Until WOLK you never needed more that 2GB, post WOLK now there can be real load issues at busy time with 2GB, probably the raw amount of textures etc that are getting swapped.

Sometimes during raiding the amount of effects is amazing with 25 people causing them, I want them at maxed details and use a /consoleui command to extend my draw distance a lot which increases the amount needing to be processed a lot.

All I am trying to do is assess whats the potential bottleneck currently in my system.
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Would be pretty donk though if you think about it:

you cruisin through 25 man raid in an i7 triple SLI system with max details and max LOD and you catch onto every little detail and all and suddenly this one healer from your party has a crappy core2duo with an x800 with a massive lag trying to heal your corpse ;)
 
It's CPU limited.

Bear in mind that while you probably won't gain much from quadcore, i7 is faster than Core2 clock-for-clock.

Personally I'd try and overclock your CPU a bit more, if you don't get very far then maybe look at an upgrade. Wolfdale would be the easier route.
 
I just upgraded, whole new i7 PC (running it at 3.4 at the mo, although it does more) the boost ive got in WOW is awesome, my old e6600 with 4850 would run wow pretty poorly, now ive been able to crank full detail in WOTLK and still see 60fps solid rates.

Great update, and well worth the £500 i spent to make wow play better.
 
I was playing WoW at a high level (competitive team PvP) and my PC broke so I had to play for two weeks with a P4 3.0Ghz 512mb RAM GeForce GX5200Go Laptop.

I had to play at 800x600 in 16bit color to get framerates decent enough to play with, even then it was a struggle. After two weeks the laptop broke as well. I then got a new PC.
 
have u noticed with v-sync also that sometimes it boots down to 30fps and is capped there? very annoying :(
 
Usual bottleneck is the CPU as a lot of the graphics are dealt with on the CPU, and in busy places, 25 man raids, dalaran etc the slow down in performance is immense.

Quad core is wasted atm, just run a dual core as fast as you can, thats about as good as it gets.
 
Ran it at 3.2ghz all night last night, although wednesdays arent raid days.
Going to Naxx for a speed clear tonight so should get the opportunity to ensure that whilst raiding I am fully stable at 3.2

Funny it wouldnt play at about 3.1 when i was trying 12 months ago so I had decided that I had a bad clocker (well 2.66 to 3.0x isnt exactly bad). I must have found the legendary FSb hole on my mobo, as last night going straight to 3.2 caused no issues.

Any difference, I would be lying if I said yes absolutely, but possibly, just possibly its a little smoother.

Now something interesting is I noticed, I stuck CPU-Z onto my off screen so with wow on the main I could see CPUz as well. Everytime I went to a loading screen it dropped to 2.4GZh as he multi dropped to 6. As soon as the load screen disappeared I was back to 3.2 as multi back to 8.
I am not sure if this is good or bad, I assume people say to stop the speedstep as it can make stability a lot worse when overclocked?

I did look for what most people say to look for in the BIOS and couldnt see any sign of it, by any chance does anyone know what an Abit IP35 lists it as. I cant remember the exact model of mobo, it was the the best Abit IP35 at the time. Think it was called a dark raider or something like that. Could just be I cannot get to that option in the BIOS, I seem to remember from years ago there is software that will often be able to mess with settings the BIOS wont show you directly?
 
Yer its SpeedStep, disable it for testing an OC is stable otherwise I'd leave it on for heat/energy sake.

EDIT: It'll be called EIST in BIOS.
 
ChrisJSY said:
I'm sorry what are you talking about?

The performance related to loading times and frames per second is entirely up to your computers hardware, not the server.

What were you thinking he was talking about?
You're not one of those people who think network latency effects fps?
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So you reckon the performance on the server has no effect on the end user's experience? lol? So the server runs like crap and sends you half the updates you would normally get and you dont think that could effect the performance of your game?


His specs look like more than enough to run WoW... I havent played in a while so I dont know exactly how the latest expansion changed the graphics but I dont see it being that much more demanding.


Latency has no effect on your fps... but I do remember running around busy areas with no stuttering and high fps and everything seemed just fine... and then people would then start to slowly appear around you. Since the OP doesnt mention any actual problems its hard to know what hes trying to improve with an upgrade! He says his FPS is fine and hes got 3gb of RAM :/

Of course upgrading to something will always make some difference... how much difference is what he should worry about before spending cash.
 
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My e6600 hits 3.6GHz with a tuniq tower and one bump in voltage, you should be able to get much more out of your chip.
 
I was playing WOW on my brothers pc which is an intel quad core (dont kno which one) clocked at 3.2gig. 4gig of ram and a 8800gtx graphics and it was running at a solid 50fps.

I then built my new pc based on an i7 920. 6gig ram and a 9800gtx card and this runs at a solid 60fps constantly (wow is fps limited to 60 anyway).

Not sure if an extra 10 fps would make that much diffrence to you mate.
 
You can "unlimit" World of Warcraft's frames per second :)

I've ran WoW over many years on many different systems, Currently have a Quad 6600, 4 GB of DDR2 ram, vista 64 and an 8800 GT over clocked * 260 as of tomorrow :D *

World of Warcraft eats CPU's for breakfast, I've noticed this over the years, yeah you're graphics card might make it look shiny, but wow still single core ? unless they've made it run on multi cores, but it's a CPU intensive game.

Your system is fine to run the game on, the server's do have a effect on your play, as do the level of players in your zone ect ect

Personally, I can't see why you'd need to upgrade you're CPU if you mainly play wow.
try over clocking it, getting some nice new shiny ram and try a clean fresh install of Vista 64 to use all of that ram.
 
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