x1900 question

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im upgrading my bro's machine, its only a single core opteron but its got an x1900xt in it and he said although its not going to be on 24/7 he doesnt mind running folding if he's not doing anything else, so hopefully ill gain a bit anyways :]
im having a bit of a problem though, ive set up a profile with tray tools to load at start up but i cant reach 3d clocks, it runs fine in normal 3d mode though so i couldnt work out what was going on, now im sure i read somewhere i need to up the voltage or something but i cant remember where i read that now, is that all i need to do? as at the moment its only stable up to 620/720, just short of normal 3d speeds :[
 
a second question, which drivers are better to download? ive put the 6.10's on but i think ive read theres a better older set? i can never remember were i read the stuf though cus i wasnt intending on getting a x1900
 
which version omegas? i used to use omegas on my 9800pro but ive had gforce since then, havent checked out the omega website for aaaages. i want to put the optimal drivers for folding on if one set exists that is generally considered to be the best, any help on how i can get over my clocking issues would also be appreciated :]
 
i will just put a cpu client on there if i cant get gpu working upto speed, he mainly uses his pc for music production though so when he's actually using it the cpu and memory are normally maxed out a large percentage of the time, because of that i dont think it would fold much except for when he's stopped all his software. as for restarting etc, he would just turn it on when he's going out or whatever so it doesnt really need to be all automated and all that, with what he does on it though im pretty sure gpu client would return better results, and by that i mean more points for me :P than sticking on a cpu client, also as i said its only a single core opteron, not dual or anything
 
The other drivers that will work are the 6.5s, though the 6.10s seem fine now that the core has been updated (currently on v0.09)

You will also need to download the very latest DirectX which includes d3dx9_30.dll without which you won't get anywhere fast :p

To increase the voltage just go into the voltage control tab and select "Enable Voltage Control (Very Dangerous)" then drag the core voltage up to 1.4, apply, and save the profile again.


edit: ATI FAQ - linky
and Conc's clocking guide - linky
 
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Concorde Rules said:
I wouldn't bother using the GPU client, as it doesn't restart automatically, doesn't work as a service at the moment, etc etc etc.

Install CPU cleints.
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:eek:

Never expected that to come from YOU. GPU client is the best thing evar. It works fine on both sets of drivers, you can just wack a shortcut in the startup folder and uhm... errr... its great!

Shame on you! :(

SiriusB
 
SiriusB said:
:eek:

Never expected that to come from YOU. GPU client is the best thing evar. It works fine on both sets of drivers, you can just wack a shortcut in the startup folder and uhm... errr... its great!

Shame on you! :(

SiriusB
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I was more pointing out that its on probably for only a few hours a day, some of which the machine will be gaming. Therefore the deadline will pass.

As for 3D clocks voltage, it needs to be atleast 1.4V.

CR.
 
Well im hoping it will get that many hours, i dont want to not even bother to try, else it will be a x1900 going to waste completely :( if it was a dual core pc i'd be less bothered but its only a single core opty as it is.
Im going to put on the gpu client, he is more than computer literate to be able to turn it on when he's not doing anything else, however if it keeps missing deadlines after a couple of weeks i'll give up and swap it for a cpu client.
Thanks for the voltage info, i knew it was somewhere but im so busy i havent got time to search through posts :]
Thanks for the driver info as well, i had a quick look on omega webby, couldnt see an optimised version of the 6.10 drivers? If they even make a difference to folding anyways. Im going to see how far i can push the x1900 now, im guessing i dont need to change the memory voltage? they are set to 1.4v and 1.8325v respectively at the moment.
 
X1900 series: 1.4/2.089V


^-- im having trouble changing the memory voltage, if i set it to anything above default, it just resets to 1.839, am i doing something obviously wrong?
 
cheers thats sorted it :) i get the following maximum stable OC;

core 695mhz
mem 1770mhz

im going to install GPU client now and see how long a WU takes, will the relative slowness of the CPU affect it? ive got it set to 2.4ghz at the moment as i havent had time to test it any higher yet
 
ok ive left it on all night, cpu is now at 3ghz, i process each frame in roughly 8 minutes 10 seconds, does that sound about right? Is there anything else i can do apart from ramp up the clock speeds to get it to go any faster?
 
mikeymike said:
ok ive left it on all night, cpu is now at 3ghz, i process each frame in roughly 8 minutes 10 seconds, does that sound about right? Is there anything else i can do apart from ramp up the clock speeds to get it to go any faster?
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are you sure it's at those 3d clocks mentioned above?
my X1900XT is only at 625/725 (or 625/1450 if you show the RAM as DDR) and it does a frame in about 6m40s

[15:27:10] Completed 89
[15:33:48] Completed 90
[15:40:26] Completed 91
[15:47:06] Completed 92
[15:54:01] Completed 93
[16:01:08] Completed 94
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8 mins sounds more like 2d clocks :o

edit: I did have a problem with the version of ATT I started off with, everytime I played a divX it would switch back to 2d clocks and I'd have to stop the client and change them back to 3d. This is solved in the v1.2.6.949 beta though as long as you select "Driver Level" as the overclocking method in the overclocking tab
 
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im not sure whether ive selected driver level overclocking or not, i will check when i get home tonight, im not sure what version of ati tray tools im using, do i need to be using a specific version?
 
mikeymike said:
im not sure whether ive selected driver level overclocking or not, i will check when i get home tonight, im not sure what version of ati tray tools im using, do i need to be using a specific version?
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It is introduced in v1.2.6.949 so anything older than that won't have it
 
Question:

Card: ATI X1950XTX

I haven't messed with Overclocking my Card, but in Concorde's Overclock guide: ATI GPU Overclock It says not to use ATI Tray Tools if your using CCC.

What is CCC ?

Also, the guide says "X1950XT-X: 650/1000 (X1950 support is not yet avalible) ". What is this referring to?

I installed ATI Tools and the standard ATI package that came on the driver CD, then updated the drivers to the latest version for folding 6.10x something. I'm obviously using 2D, or at least from what I can gather, as my step times are in the 8min range and several people have said they should be in the 6min range if Im using 3D.

What should the step times be using 3D and overclocked per Concorde's instructions?
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CCC - Catalyst Control Centre


at least it's something like that anyway :p

edit: the time per frame is pretty much proportional with the GPU core clock as far as I can tell (according to Stanford higher memory clocks have very little effect on the GPU folding performance)
The stock 2d speed for my card is 500MHz and gives around 8mins a frame, at the stock 3d speed of 625MHz I get around 6.5mins a frame

500 x 8 = 4000
625 x 6.5 = 4063

seems like a fairly linear relationship to me anyway
 
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