X2 4800 cpu or fx57 ?

Ka0ticMind · 16 Feb 2006 at 20:18

Hi ...looking to buy a new processor...which would be better buying a FX57 ..or buying a X2 4800 cpu and overclocking to fx60 speeds? also what 2gb memory kit would you advise for overclocking?

Thanks..N

Big.Wayne · 16 Feb 2006 at 21:00

Mono-Core= Opteron 144/146 or SD 3700+

Dual-Core= Opteron 165/170 or X2 4400+

Memory= too many to choose from and depends on your final overclock!

ACESHIGH · 17 Feb 2006 at 09:18

Ka0ticMind said:
Hi ...looking to buy a new processor...which would be better buying a FX57 ..or buying a X2 4800 cpu and overclocking to fx60 speeds? also what 2gb memory kit would you advise for overclocking?

Thanks..N

Id suggest going for the FX57 if its a gaming rig.
But the X2 4800+ if you multitask more.

As for ram how about ...

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clone · 17 Feb 2006 at 09:29

Sold my FX 57 to buy a X2 4800 this cpu is now clocked @ FX60 speed`s for now,as for memory i have this 2gb kit Mushkin 2GB DDR XP4000 Redline Extreme Performance.

lemonkettaz · 17 Feb 2006 at 09:32

the x2 4800 is not worth the extra money over the x2 4400

same 1mb x2 cache..

and the 4800 is clocked at 2.4ghz... x2 4400 is clocked at 2.2ghz.. you coan easily clock the 4400 to 4800 speed.

and further

Ka0ticMind · 17 Feb 2006 at 13:40

Thanks for the replies....think i'm , going to go for the fx 57 as it will be used as a gaming rig, and don't really multi task that much.

Havana_UK · 17 Feb 2006 at 14:08

Ka0ticMind said:
Thanks for the replies....think i'm , going to go for the fx 57 as it will be used as a gaming rig, and don't really multi task that much.

My opinion... don't waste your money on the FX57.

ACESHIGH's statement held true until a couple of months ago when games that supported multi-threading began to be released.

Go with the X2 4400+, clock it to 2.6GHz (shouldn't be a problem at all) and you have an FX60 at half the price of an FX57.

FX57 will be quicker, but only by a little bit, and only for a little while. As more and more new games support multi-threading, the FX57 will quickly lose it's advantage of higher CPU speed.

Go dual core - you won't look back mate.

I promise.

Hav

Metalface Mark · 17 Feb 2006 at 14:17

the gskill ZX is damn good, ive got it running at 2.75v 245fsb 2.5/6/3/3 1:1 its about £5 more than the HZ.

Raikiri · 17 Feb 2006 at 14:18

Havana_UK said:
My opinion... don't waste your money on the FX57.

ACESHIGH's statement held true until a couple of months ago when games that supported multi-threading began to be released.

Go with the X2 4400+, clock it to 2.6GHz (shouldn't be a problem at all) and you have an FX60 at half the price of an FX57.

FX57 will be quicker, but only by a little bit, and only for a little while. As more and more new games support multi-threading, the FX57 will quickly lose it's advantage of higher CPU speed.

Go dual core - you won't look back mate.

I promise.

Hav

He is 100% correct, the FX57 is not worth it now.
An opteron 170 or 4400+ would be the best choice while saving you a few hundred quid which could be spent on other things such as HD's, better RAM, nicer case, higher quality PSU (you could get all that for the price diference)

fenderbass86 · 17 Feb 2006 at 14:44

Seconded, the FX's are a waste of money, dual core all the way.

Ka0ticMind · 17 Feb 2006 at 14:52

Hi...hmmmmmmm just as my mind was made up *l* so would a 4400 or 4800 clocked at 2.6 ghz offer the same performance as a fx60? never usually lucky when it comes to overclocking, so thats why i was more inclined towards the fx57...but would be happy if i could get a DC to run at 2.6, do you think with this mobo MSI RD480 Neo2 Crossfire ..and ram such as OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Gold GX XTC Series EL-DDR CAS2 orG.Skill 2GB DDR ZX PC3200 that would be possible?

Appreciate all the comments and help :-)

mattup · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:04

Buy the Opti 170. Most clock to FX60+ speeds. They also run at lower voltages mine runs @ 2.8 1.35V (standard Volts). Ram depends on available dividers in BIOS.

Matt

juno_first · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:20

How come the opty 170 2ghz is £352 but the 4400 2.2ghz is £340 ?
Is the opty a better clocker ? as you can still run a 4400 at 10x.

Big.Wayne · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:31

The Opteron 170 costs as little as £275 depending where you shop, average price is £295, so it appears that overclockers.co.uk are selling the most expensive 170's in the world (probably).

clone · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:45

Also before you order your new cpu ask the shop if they can tell you what stepping they have in stock most shops will tell you no problem.

Big.Wayne · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:47

clone said:
Also before you order your new cpu ask the shop if they can tell you what stepping they have in stock most shops will tell you no problem.

I have found quite the opposite, only one store I shop at will tell you that info

p4radox · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:52

Go for an Opteron 170 and some GSkill ZX RAM.

juno_first · 17 Feb 2006 at 15:58

Be nice to have a 260 or 270 fsb/RAM, my 3200ocz plat can only handle 260 & 4400 252fsb

BUT HT can handle up to 1100 so perhaps experimentation is required as to whats best ?

Havana_UK · 17 Feb 2006 at 21:38

Ka0ticMind said:
Hi...hmmmmmmm just as my mind was made up *l* so would a 4400 or 4800 clocked at 2.6 ghz offer the same performance as a fx60? never usually lucky when it comes to overclocking, so thats why i was more inclined towards the fx57...but would be happy if i could get a DC to run at 2.6, do you think with this mobo MSI RD480 Neo2 Crossfire ..and ram such as OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Gold GX XTC Series EL-DDR CAS2 orG.Skill 2GB DDR ZX PC3200 that would be possible?

Appreciate all the comments and help

Yes, a 4400+ or 4800+ at 2.6GHz would offer exactly the same performance as an FX60 at stock speed. It's the same chip (Toledo) at the end of the day.

As for a motherboard with an ATI chipset, if that's what you're dead set on wait for the RD580 which should be along in a couple of months. Frankly the RD480 chipset is a bit rubbish, and NF4 is much better.

Hav

Ka0ticMind · 18 Feb 2006 at 10:57

Ok...going to purchase a opteron 170, whats the best motherboard to match it up with? i've had a dfi nf4 ultra d ..when they first came out and thought it was rather flakey, have they improved since initial release? what about the dfi UT RDX200CF-DR crossfire is that rubbish also? and will the gskill 2gb zx 3200 memory be ok for 2.6ghz.