Poll: *** Xbox Series X|S - General Discussion Thread ***

Which will you buy?

  • Series X

    Votes: 537 59.1%
  • Series S

    Votes: 108 11.9%
  • Not interested

    Votes: 239 26.3%
  • Both

    Votes: 25 2.8%

  • Total voters
    909
Microsoft has announced a $100 increase in price for the series X in the USA, along with a new price of $80 for AAA games and the price of accessories will also be going up

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Looks like Microsoft is upping the price of hardware.

See costs in USD below:
  • Xbox Series S 512 - $379.99 (up from $299.99)
  • Xbox Series S 1TB - $429.99 (up from $349.99)
  • Xbox Series X Digital - $549.99 (up from $449.99)
  • Xbox Series X - $599.99 (up from $499.99)
  • Xbox Series X 2TB Galaxy Special Edition $729.99 (up from $599.99)
  • Xbox Wireless Controller (Core) - $64.99
  • Xbox Wireless Controller (Color) - $69.99
  • Xbox Wireless Controller - Special Edition - $79.99
  • Xbox Wireless Controller - Limited Edition - $89.99 (up from $79.99)
  • Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2 (Core) - $149.99 (up from $139.99)
  • Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2 (Full) - $199.99 (up from $179.99)
  • Xbox Stereo Headset -$64.99
  • Xbox Wireless Headset - $119.99 (up from $109.99)

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Why increase when you are already behind, you aren't going to convince people to buy into your ecosystem that way.
Yeah it's a strange decision by them but I think they're more fussed about game pass subscribers than hardware sales.

As others have said though it wouldn't surprise me to see that increasing in price soon too.
 
I think they are calling it quits on getting market share, so no more loss leader to get people into the ecosystem to sell games. They are just plain selling Game Pass on every platform possible so going to break even or slight profit on console sale.
 
Yeah it's a strange decision by them but I think they're more fussed about game pass subscribers than hardware sales.

As others have said though it wouldn't surprise me to see that increasing in price soon too.

Its corporate greed.

Everyone else is increasing prices so we will too"
 
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I think they are calling it quits on getting market share, so no more loss leader to get people into the ecosystem to sell games. They are just plain selling Game Pass on every platform possible so going to break even or slight profit on console sale.
I doubt they made a loss on any console sale, in 2025. They have reduced the die size of the main chip on their consoles, and reduced the cooling needed for these chips without announcing it. Cost cutting measures to ensure a profit margin.

In addition the company has just announced a recent 23 billion profit. Microsoft has anyway.

If these price rises arrive in the UK, I predict retailers will have plenty of stock staying on shelves, as they did when the Xbox One arrived in 2013 to abysmal public reception (TV, TV, TV!). And were forced to discount with the Xbox One S arriving soon after.

I could just stream the games on my LG OLED TV, and not bother with any of their consoles if I so wished now. Just use their app.
 
I doubt they made a loss on any console sale, in 2025. They have reduced the die size of the main chip on their consoles, and reduced the cooling needed for these chips without announcing it. Cost cutting measures to ensure a profit margin.

In addition the company has just announced a recent 23 billion profit. Microsoft has anyway.

If these price rises arrive in the UK, I predict retailers will have plenty of stock staying on shelves, as they did when the Xbox One arrived in 2013 to abysmal public reception (TV, TV, TV!). And were forced to discount with the Xbox One S arriving soon after.

I could just stream the games on my LG OLED TV, and not bother with any of their consoles if I so wished now. Just use their app.

The prices already have hit the UK as of yesterday.

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-...es-market-conditions-and-price-of-development

Currently retailers happily applying the new prices. They are not holding back.
 
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The prices already have hit the UK as of yesterday.

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-...es-market-conditions-and-price-of-development

Currently retailers happily applying the new prices. They are not holding back.
Looks like the UK currency (1.32.85 USD, per Pound) is offsetting the huge increase that USA has faced.

However, plenty of these consoles are in stock. And I doubt they are flying-off the shelves, now we are past the pandemic.

People will look at these prices and buy Nintendo Switch (while the Switch is still available), or the cheapest options (second-hand).
 
Why increase when you are already behind, you aren't going to convince people to buy into your ecosystem that way.

Tariffs. That's largely the reason for this increase, although they will never confirm it. There is a perfect storm of other things going on; economic conditions, inflation, supply chain cost increases, lack of growth, pressure from shareholders, costs of borrowing rising etc.

Slight aside but there was a good Youtube video the other day from Alanah Pearce which goes over some of the main reasons for recent job losses in the industry. Essentially there is no real growth in the market outside of Mobile & Cloud. There are some positive points this year coming with the likes of GTAVI and Switch 2 but challenging conditions will remain.


I was actually going to sell it when my GPU expires, but at this rate, I might get back what I paid for it after like 7 years !

I did this last summer, sold my Series X, 5, or 6 Joypads and the 1TB storage card. Made over £500 which was nice. Still have Game Pass Ultimate until March '26 but just don't use it. Made the decision to cutback and continue to build my library of games on Steam, Nintendo and PSN. Of these four platform holders Microsoft are the ones I trust the least and I have very little faith in their future moves. With all new Microsoft games being ported to PS5 and some of the bigger older games coming over too I just don't see the point in owning an Xbox anymore. Digital lock-in is real and I don't want to get caught out by Microsoft's mismanagement of their Xbox in the future when they are forced to stop selling hardware, or make their change to Xbox as an OS/content delivery platform.

Shame because it was easily the nicer made of this gen's two consoles and some of the backward compat stuff was really nicely executed. Better than Sony's efforts.

I doubt they made a loss on any console sale, in 2025. They have reduced the die size of the main chip on their consoles, and reduced the cooling needed for these chips without announcing it. Cost cutting measures to ensure a profit margin.

In addition the company has just announced a recent 23 billion profit. Microsoft has anyway.

If these price rises arrive in the UK, I predict retailers will have plenty of stock staying on shelves, as they did when the Xbox One arrived in 2013 to abysmal public reception (TV, TV, TV!). And were forced to discount with the Xbox One S arriving soon after.

I could just stream the games on my LG OLED TV, and not bother with any of their consoles if I so wished now. Just use their app.

Supposedly they have still been making losses on the Xbox Series consoles, although there's a lack of real information to back that up, but something Phil Spencer and others have talked about before. However it's probably true that they lack the buying power, or relationships of Sony and Nintendo to push down costs as much with their partners; AMD, Foxconn, Nvidia etc. Lack of Xbox special editions and notable revisions probably also backs this up.

Although they announced good quarterly results yesterday, hardware was down 26% when reading through the report. Outside of the UK and USA they are an irrelevance and most of their revenue is services, games on PlayStation/PC and some cloud growth. Has felt for a long time it's just a matter of when Microsoft becomes a third-party developer only albeit the largest one out there. However Microsoft is likely far from done trying to cling onto that 'walled garden' and the magical 30% easy money it brings. Whether through pushing for legislation changes, or acquiisitions, I'm not sure they want to give up on that dream just yet and the simply letting go of those 35/40m Xbox users given they are mostly console. Which is their challenge and also the great irony of the position Microsoft are currently in.
 
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Tariffs. That's largely the reason for this increase, although they will never confirm it. There is a perfect storm of other things going on; economic conditions, inflation, supply chain cost increases, lack of growth, pressure from shareholders, costs of borrowing rising etc.

Slight aside but there was a good Youtube video the other day from Alanah Pearce which goes over some of the main reasons for recent job losses in the industry. Essentially there is no real growth in the market outside of Mobile & Cloud. There are some positive points this year coming with the likes of GTAVI and Switch 2 but challenging conditions will remain.




I did this last summer, sold my Series X, 5, or 6 Joypads and the 1TB storage card. Made over £500 which was nice. Still have Game Pass Ultimate until March '26 but just don't use it. Made the decision to cutback and continue to build my library of games on Steam, Nintendo and PSN. Of these four platform holders Microsoft are the ones I trust the least and I have very little faith in their future moves. With all new Microsoft games being ported to PS5 and some of the bigger older games coming over too I just don't see the point in owning an Xbox anymore. Digital lock-in is real and I don't want to get caught out by Microsoft's mismanagement of their Xbox in the future when they are forced to stop selling hardware, or make their change to Xbox as an OS/content delivery platform.

Shame because it was easily the nicer made of this gen's two consoles and some of the backward compat stuff was really nicely executed. Better than Sony's efforts.



Supposedly they have still been making losses on the Xbox Series consoles, although there's a lack of real information to back that up, but something Phil Spencer and others have talked about before. However it's probably true that they lack the buying power, or relationships of Sony and Nintendo to push down costs as much with their partners; AMD, Foxconn, Nvidia etc. Lack of Xbox special editions and notable revisions probably also backs this up.

Although they announced good quarterly results yesterday, hardware was down 26% when reading through the report. Outside of the UK and USA they are an irrelevance and most of their revenue is services, games on PlayStation/PC and some cloud growth. Has felt for a long time it's just a matter of when Microsoft becomes a third-party developer only albeit the largest one out there. However Microsoft is likely far from done trying to cling onto that 'walled garden' and the magical 30% easy money it brings. Whether through pushing for legislation changes, or acquiisitions, I'm not sure they want to give up on that dream just yet and the simply letting go of those 35/40m Xbox users given they are mostly console. Which is their challenge and also the great irony of the position Microsoft are currently in.
I’m certainly tempted to invest back into pc gaming, I know it’s a big initial outgoing but the games are easily half the price these days
 
I’m certainly tempted to invest back into pc gaming, I know it’s a big initial outgoing but the games are easily half the price these days

I suppose one advantage with going Xbox -> PC is that 'some' of your library will go over with you. Although the big downside is that it's all on the Windows App store.
 
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I'll die on this hill but State of Decay 2 is one of the best (value) games around.

Great fun, dirt cheap and accessible via Xbox or PC.

I'd gladly pay £100 for SoD3 if it expands on what's awesome about SoD 2. If you haven't played it yet, get involved!
 
How many times are they going to flog that dead horse. Absolutely no one wants to play a Close Quarters shot gun game. It was popular for about a year on the 360 before everyone got bored. Then they added the wall cancel and bouncing and it became an even more appalling PVP experience. They actually think adding this to PlayStation will create new players. If anyone cared they would've got an xbox for peanuts when this was a big title. Younger players now have far more choice that they don't need to turn to a wall bouncing one gun game.

I say that as someone who has probably played more Gears than anyone on this forum and pretty much the only MP game I play!
 
How many times are they going to flog that dead horse. Absolutely no one wants to play a Close Quarters shot gun game. It was popular for about a year on the 360 before everyone got bored. Then they added the wall cancel and bouncing and it became an even more appalling PVP experience. They actually think adding this to PlayStation will create new players. If anyone cared they would've got an xbox for peanuts when this was a big title. Younger players now have far more choice that they don't need to turn to a wall bouncing one gun game.

I say that as someone who has probably played more Gears than anyone on this forum and pretty much the only MP game I play!
I do. Not a single online shooter has come even close to giving me the same joy that Gears of War did.
 
The chatter about the Xbox price increase had passed me by. But wow those new console prices (in the US in particular) are wild.

An Xbox Series S 512GB and a year's supply of Game Pass Standard is now about $600 after adding sales tax :eek:

Walmart have the PS5 Slim for $399 (Digital) or $449 (Disc) with a copy of Astro Bot thrown in...
 
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