XR2 Project... Update! (Cryfreeman might like this))

[penski]

More special than the junk you get a trouser tent over

Get over yourself, Rupert.

It has a hushed aura about it due to the success of the works cars but they aren't worth the premium they command unless they have provenence.

The Lotus lump is highly strung and fragile.

*n

 

[agw_01]

The Rover is simply a badly built banger, the Escort RS Turbo is beginning to gain classic status. There is a slight difference.

A badly built banger? haha

Oh yeah, because it's really falling to bits around me isn't it.

They're both old cars with a similar 80's style interior, similar performance/reliability, both FWD with a heathly dose of torque steer/traction issues.

Just because the Rover isn't to your taste and the Ford is gaining 'classic' status, doesn't make the Rover a shed.

I actually thought you'd post something like that Fox. Just goes to prove you're a narrow minded ****. Not that it bothers me tbh, I was just wondering how you could say completely different things about two similar performing vehicles just because one has a 'better' badge.

Oh, and Merry Christmas

 

[helpimcrap]

how you could say completely different things about two similar performing vehicles just because one has a 'better' badge.

you think Fox owns a BMW just because of the badge?

perish the thought.

 

[Ben M]

very nice, that little XR2 will go like stink with a new engine =D

 

[SgtTupac]

RS Turbo shell is surpisingly mint... Gonna put the shell in my garage and forget about it, or if my mate wants it he can have it. My XR2 is pretty mint... No major just, just a little bit in the boot. Not sure on the BHP on the RS Turbo engine, but a T3 Turbo, cam, chiped ECU, 3 inch straight thru exhaust and -31 actuator.. its pretty quick. I got a vernier to go on it so will add a bit more adjustment to the engine. Gonna fit a new oil pump etc while its out. Cant wait to get it done... want about 200bhp when its all done and a few more mods fitted. More than enough for something that weighs around 800kg.

 

[Ben M]

My XR2 is pretty mint...

pics? or am i blind and i missed them?

 

[SgtTupac]

 

[Ben M]

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beautiful!

any plans for the exterior?

 

[Jonny69]

That is XR2tastic, lose the faux Cossie wheels, Pepperpot alloys. Gwaaaarn, you know you want to

 

[SgtTupac]

That is XR2tastic, lose the faux Cossie wheels, Pepperpot alloys. Gwaaaarn, you know you want to

Pepper pots are already back on. As for exterior, it will be standard.. Possibly have some vents put into the bonnet to help with heat though

 

[helpimcrap]

Pepper pots are already back on. As for exterior, it will be standard.. Possibly have some vents put into the bonnet to help with heat though

as the XR2 bonnet opens backwards you could always have it sitting up half an inch when its shut to help with the heat and you might not need vents?

 

[penski]

as the XR2 bonnet opens backwards you could always have it sitting up half an inch when its shut to help with the heat and you might not need vents?

NONONOONONONOONOOOOOO!!!

Pet hate number 3486r subsection 3: Propped-open bonnets. They don't let air out, they don't aid cooling. All they do is increase drag and reduce radiator and intercooler efficiency.

*n

 

[helpimcrap]

NONONOONONONOONOOOOOO!!!

Pet hate number 3486r subsection 3: Propped-open bonnets. They don't let air out, they don't aid cooling. All they do is increase drag and reduce radiator and intercooler efficiency.

*n

what do you know about drag and efficiency? unless it's on the floor and got weird wonky tyres you aint interested.

 

[penski]

what do you know about drag and efficiency? unless it's on the floor and got weird wonky tyres you aint interested.

Cheeky bugger. My tastes extend further than you know

Simple aerodynamics: Air flows from high-pressure areas to low-pressure areas. The rear of the bonnet/bottom of the screen is an area of high pressure, under the bonnet is low pressure.

Why do you think so many cars have inlets on the scuttle for the heater et cetera? Or why some race cars use a cowl inlet (bonnet bulge open at the very rear)?

Popping the rear edge of the bonnet screws up the airflow through the radiator (and intercooler if you have one) so really it has zero benefits...And it makes you look like a tool

Just had a thought - if you have a FWD car with the exhaust at the front (Honda or similar) and have ITBs fitted then you could pop the trailing edge of the bonnet, blank it all off apart from a small section and have an intake to a plenum for the ITBs...But other than that, why would you want to do it?

*n

 

[MrMatteh]

Mine has a nice scoop at the rear


I want a scuttle induction kit for mine, as it's proven to be better

 

[helpimcrap]

Cheeky bugger. My tastes extend further than you know

Simple aerodynamics: Air flows from high-pressure areas to low-pressure areas. The rear of the bonnet/bottom of the screen is an area of high pressure, under the bonnet is low pressure.

Why do you think so many cars have inlets on the scuttle for the heater et cetera? Or why some race cars use a cowl inlet (bonnet bulge open at the very rear)?

Popping the rear edge of the bonnet screws up the airflow through the radiator (and intercooler if you have one) so really it has zero benefits...And it makes you look like a tool

Just had a thought - if you have a FWD car with the exhaust at the front (Honda or similar) and have ITBs fitted then you could pop the trailing edge of the bonnet, blank it all off apart from a small section and have an intake to a plenum for the ITBs...But other than that, why would you want to do it?

*n

wouldnt you need to run it through filters for the ITBs? would they still mean the air intake would be at the back? unless you fabricate your own air box i suppose.

why would popping the bonnet screw up the airflow anyway? surely it would create a vacuum effect and maybe increase airflow?

not arguing, genuinely curious.

 

[penski]

wouldnt you need to run it through filters for the ITBs? would they still mean the air intake would be at the back? unless you fabricate your own air box i suppose.

That's what I said - fabricate a plenum and stick filters on if you're a pussy

why would popping the bonnet screw up the airflow anyway? surely it would create a vacuum effect and maybe increase airflow?

Serious? I just explained that...Air flows IN a popped-open bonnet...Not out.

Radiators are designed for air to go in the front (high pressure) and out the back to the low-pressure engine bay. If you suddenly increase the air pressure in the engine bay by popping the trailing edge of the bonnet then it is going to be more difficult for the airflow to pass through the radiator into the engine bay then out, decreasing radiator efficiency by lowering the flow of air across it.

*n

 

[helpimcrap]

Serious? I just explained that...Air flows IN a popped-open bonnet...Not out.

Radiators are designed for air to go in the front (high pressure) and out the back to the low-pressure engine bay. If you suddenly increase the air pressure in the engine bay by popping the trailing edge of the bonnet then it is going to be more difficult for the airflow to pass through the radiator into the engine bay then out, decreasing radiator efficiency by lowering the flow of air across it.

*n

i'm going on the basis that air flows best with least resistance and pressure. it's hard to explain without a drawing. i'll try a quick paint one.

 

[helpimcrap]

before... air has nowhere to go essentially except being forced out the bottom of the engine bay.

and after... air goes out as car is going along by force of vacuum as air will be going through the front of the car and this air will be sucked out at the easiest point which will be through the opening in the bonnet. well the way i see it....

 

[bigchez]

NONONOONONONOONOOOOOO!!!

Pet hate number 3486r subsection 3: Propped-open bonnets. They don't let air out, they don't aid cooling. All they do is increase drag and reduce radiator and intercooler efficiency.

*n

Rubbish.

I added bonnet raisers to my RST and they made 5+ degrees difference whilst on the move, and more when stationary. I had a proper temp gauge for the coolant, not just the factory one in the dash, which was acccurate. As a car that is legendary for overheating at any given opportunity, they were excellent.

As it goes, I also like the look on the right car.