XSPC Laing DDC Bay Res

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Hey

Has anyone got this?

I have not seen it before but it looks absolutely perfect for what I need!

I currently have an XSPC Bay Res -> Laing D5 Vario and have been wanting to cut the tube clutter in my case for a long time (TJ07). Also, the pump is quite noisy and is in the bottom compartment of the case and obstructs my TC PA120.3 air flow. Furthermore, my Vario D5 is struggling to keep up with my loop (comprising of CPU, GPU, 2x Rads and Res) and flow rates are very slow so I have been looking to purchase a DDC Ultra for a while now. This XSPC Laing DDC Bay Res looks PERFECT for what I need! Shame OcUK don't stock it...

Anyhow, would this product eliminate some of the noise of the DDC as presumably it is submerged in water? I had a DDC Ultra before but sold it as it was buzzing in favor of the D5 but even the latter is still a noisy bugger! Bear in mind I have 5 Yate Loons all on slowest possible speed through a BigNG so the pump really is the loudest thing in my rig...

Many thanks!

Tom
 
Don't think the pumps are submerged. Id hope not, as the DDC's have no reason to be waterproof from the outside, and from what I've seen online about modding them, they aren't.

The res looks very good, I've not seen it before but I'm definitely impressed. I doubt it will do anything for noise, as the res will be hard mounted into your case, so vibrations will still get out.

Standard answer: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-027-XS
Softmount that and it'll be as quiet as you could ask for. It's what I'm using now, and my fans are louder. Scythe s-flex, running at 8V ish. I think it's hard to get a quieter pump, and having the reservoir directly over it does good things for performance.
 
Yer I had the "standard answer" to begin with in my rig and it was LOUD. I used some velcro to mount it. I then purchased my D5 and bought the petr-tech gel stuff to sit it on but it really is too loud for me...admitedly my gaming rig is in a recording studio (ie sound-proofed) so I am prolly a little more fussy over pump noise than most others...
 
Ahh that makes life more difficult. Watercooling and silence does tend to end up with the pump being the loudest thing in it :(
Buzzing may have been a dodgy pump. Or may be resonance, which is unfortunate. What tubing do you use? If the pump is sat on something decoupling, but has fairly inflexible tubes attached, vibrations will make it out through those. People recommend using soft, silicon tubing for the bits next to the pump. This stuff kinks very easily, so is a bad choice for the rest of the loop. A compromise would be pump - silicon tubing - connector - normal tubing - rig, which I'll do when I get around to it.

Hard drives silenced? I'm interested in where you go from here, as if you come up with a good solution I'll copy it :)
 
Cheers for the reply Jon.

Hmmmm well the thing is I sold my DDC with the XSPC res top to my best mate and used it in his Cosmos S build. It's silent in his rig so bit confusing! Of course, his rig is louder overall so it might be that I just don't notice the noise over the sound of his case. What you say about tubing is interesting. I currently use this tubing. Can you recommend a 1/2" slicon alternative which I could use just for the tubing around the pump?

Many thanks mate!

Tom
 
Can't recommend any I'm afraid man, I'd suggest silentpcreview as the guys there know a lot. I've not reached the stage of various types of tubing, and am not really relishing finding 8/10mm silicone. 1/2" shouldn't be too difficult, but I can't offer any more advice than google I'm afraid.

Silent in his rig might mean the rest is louder, but could also mean you were hitting resonance problems. The pump is quiet, but runs at constant frequency. If this happens to be near one of the natural frequencies of your case it'll set up vibrations. Moving the pump to other parts of the case could solve this, Id expect soft mounting to help a bit.

Highly flexible sounds like kink resistant, so is probably quite hard. I'm using astonishingly expensive tygon, but it can bend through very tight angles without kinking. It's definitely not soft. Once the pump issue is solved, you might be at the point of fitting damping material to the case. Have you got one of the sensible case designs that offer only indirect escape paths for the noise? I don't :)
 
Ha ha no I'm afraid my Silverstone TJ07's case doors don't even line up with the screw holes (common problem apparently with Silverstone). Bit gutted really as this definately does not help with the sound insulation. Plus, the company I bought it off gave me the windowed one when I asked for the one without grrrr!!! So no insulation on one side either...

Sucks to be me!
 
Ah that made me laugh. Getting screw holes to line up shouldn't be so tricky on an expensive case. I found this on another site:

This is not to say the case cannot be made quiet. Taking it apart and reassembling it with a thin resilient gasket layer in every joint would probably reduce the tendency to vibrate dramatically. A further addition of acoustic/mass damping materials on the inside of the side panels might even eliminate it altogether.

So perhaps there is hope yet. I need to do something about the door on my case vibrating when the cd drive spins, no case is perfect. Sending the wrong side panel is crap of them, I'd be very annoyed to have a side window. My Omega has fan mounts, I've been tempted to get a solid side panel for it for ages. You can probably find someone who has a solid side panel and doesn't want it.

Current plan is to move the hard drives out into a NAS so I can mount a radiator there, seal off the side panel holes, and cover the entire box with some form of damping foam. Who cares if I can't lift it anymore :)
 
hughythomas said:
Yer I had the "standard answer" to begin with in my rig and it was LOUD. I used some velcro to mount it. I then purchased my D5 and bought the petr-tech gel stuff to sit it on but it really is too loud for me...admitedly my gaming rig is in a recording studio (ie sound-proofed) so I am prolly a little more fussy over pump noise than most others...
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The 18w Ultra is loud. pointless for a quiet setup.
The 10w Pro is better - next to no vibration BUT is does hum.

Dependant on your blocks the D-Tek DB-1 or the larger DD CPX-PRO or one of the submerged XSPC pumps are a much better option.
The C-mag/CSP-750 is also a great little pump (innovatek have just started to make it again - but a few come up for sale on MM - gutted I sold mine)

If your studio is Air-con then one of the Zalman Reserator would win hands down.

What's your current loop, and have a look at this thread
 
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Not sure what can be done about it humming, possibly building it a dampening enclosure.
Do you happen to know if the 18W ddc can be undervolted successfully? Putting it on a fan controller would be useful.
 
I didn't think that was the case with the newer ones. It's probably worth soldering a switch in place if it is still valid. Before that, I'll probably try starting it up on 7V to see what happens. 12 down to 7 is similar to 18 down to 10, so if the pump is a simple one it'll do fine. I'll run off and do my own research, apologies for asking a question google can probably answer.
 
JonJ678 said:
Not sure what can be done about it humming, possibly building it a dampening enclosure.
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At various times I've had my DDC and D5 suspended in an elastic harness, bungees would probably work too. This isolates all mechanical vibration from the case, any residual airborne noise can be dealt with by using AcoustiPack products.

The Reserator + Air-Conditioning sounds an excellent idea, especially if someone else is paying for the electricity.
 
shadowscotland said:
The 18w Ultra is loud. pointless for a quiet setup.
The 10w Pro is better - next to no vibration BUT is does hum.

Dependant on your blocks the D-Tek DB-1 or the larger DD CPX-PRO or one of the submerged XSPC pumps are a much better option.
The C-mag/CSP-750 is also a great little pump (innovatek have just started to make it again - but a few come up for sale on MM - gutted I sold mine)

If your studio is Air-con then one of the Zalman Reserator would win hands down.

What's your current loop, and have a look at this thread
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Thanks for the lnk mate - great thread! I even posted a reply when it was active hahah check half the way down I gave you a +1 (I bet you feel really privileged!!!).

Bit stuck over what to do. This XSPC Dual bay res looks great because I think I need two seperate loops. I will post some pictures of my current setup later tonight however, as you so wisely stated in your thread the DDC Ultra is NOT silent - I don't care what anybody says it just isnt!!! My problem is that I don't think any of the submerged pumps have the head height to satify my loop as I have dual rads. Like I said I will post some pictures of my current rig so that you can guys can see what I'm dealing with here. It'd be great to hear your input!

Thanks again lads

Tom
 
I installed the XSPC Dual bay res a few days ago and its running sweet. I have two Laing 18w Ultras installed and they're almost running silent, just the faintest background hum. The lack of noise is stunning considering that there are 2 pumps in use.

As this reservoir has a single shared chamber it isn't possible to run a true dual loop system. I believe the correct term is parallel loop: 1 reservoir, 2 pumps, 2 rads, 7 water blocks (cpu, nb, sb, 2 x mosfets, 2 x gpu).

Temps are very good high 40s under full load on the cpu.

All in all its a fantastic little res that has allowed me to keep my case relatively clutter-free while packing it to the gills with water cooling gear.

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Its heeeer.. :)

Fitted one pump then thought I'd show how to fit the other one :o

Fancy shots, you can see how it works from these:


Cracking open the second pump:


There is a blanking plate with a Oring that needs to be removed, but I used the one from the pump. Also you can see the provided screws just the right size! ;)
 
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