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I don't really see it the way you do obviously. I think the forum is generally pro consumer and pro value for money. When bulldozer was around nobody was recommending that and nobody was pro AMD. You can't then just claim that the whole forum is now pro AMD when the same people who were recommending 2500/2600k CPU's are now recommending the competition.
An interesting criteria - does that put me in with Dg's pro-AMD crowd? as I've quite a few times lately recommended the Ryzen 2600, etc. especially over the garbage Intel is putting out as the i3 and i5 lines at the moment.
its not if it is a big deal its how many posts are pro amd in here . just go look down the posts. if people cant see how pro amd it is i dont know what to say.
I'm not sure, I just don't read every post as black and white, AMD good, Intel bad, but take a much more objective view. I enjoy reading your posts on the vulnerabilities as well as others and never generally get the feeling that people are die hards one way or the other. Sure I myself have taken a few digs at Intel recently and dont think anything at all in their stack represents any sort of value right now, for the first time in a long time I'm on an all amd hedt build and I think it is great.
None of this stopped me buying 100's of 8500 based intel systems recently simply because they fit right in at the right price. I have also openly been an advocate of epyc Rome and have purchased 3 rome based servers because again it's about value for money.
I'm not sure, I just don't read every post as black and white, AMD good, Intel bad, but take a much more objective view. I enjoy reading your posts on the vulnerabilities as well as others and never generally get the feeling that people are die hards one way or the other (bar a few exceptions of course).. Sure I myself have taken a few digs at Intel recently and dont think anything at all in their stack represents any sort of value right now, for the first time in a long time I'm on an all amd hedt build and I think it is great.
None of this stopped me buying 100's of 8500 based intel systems recently simply because they fit right in at the right price. I have also openly been an advocate of epyc Rome and have purchased 3 rome based servers because again it's about value for money.
Ummmm, just built an 8700 based system and I'm really happy with it but all these security vulnerabilities have a me a bit worried.
If I don't want to loose any performance that comes with these patches/fixes do I have to disable windows update? or is it just the bios updates I need to avoid?
There is software such as https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm which allows you to enabled and disable the Windows mitigations at will.
Ummmm, just built an 8700 based system and I'm really happy with it but all these security vulnerabilities have a me a bit worried.
If I don't want to loose any performance that comes with these patches/fixes do I have to disable windows update? or is it just the bios updates I need to avoid?
Ummmm, just built an 8700 based system and I'm really happy with it but all these security vulnerabilities have a me a bit worried.
If I don't want to loose any performance that comes with these patches/fixes do I have to disable windows update? or is it just the bios updates I need to avoid?
Thank you.
Cheaper than the cost of change to AMD. They would rather spend that money on migrating their platform to their own silicon.Amazed they have stuck with Intel, they must be cheap. Intel has to loose market share in the server sector over this, it mush really hurt the big cloud providers.
A workload which see a performance increase of 33% is a rare thing. To be running that in an environment which is at risk to these attacks is even rarer. Unlucky.You’re going to take a performance hit. Disabling Hyperthreading and virtualisation are going to really hurt performance. I lost 33% from Hyperthreading and god knows what from this mess...
For the average home user desktop/gaming system no point disabling HT - if something has got to the point of exploiting vulnerabilities there you have much bigger security/trust issues and it is the least of your worries. If you are running a server environment or server like services such as virtual machines with remote access then another story entirely and you'd be better off not using an Intel system at all.
False.
Part of the reason these things are such a big deal is that we all run oodles of untrusted code, every day. It's mostly javascript and while browsers do their best not to allow scripts to exploit things like spectre and meltdown, they can't protect against everything.