Yet another newbie question

Deception · 30 May 2006 at 23:57

Yet another newbie question (A8V-E SE)

Hi there, Im rather new to this whole overclocking "thing". I have an AMD 3700+(2200mhz and stock cooler), 1GB Corsair XMS3200PT TwinX and an Asus A8V-E SE mobo.
My question is, If i was to think about trying to overclock this, would it be a safe bet, to use the built in AI overclocking utility on the mobo, instead of me fiddling around, saves breaking something

Joe42 · 31 May 2006 at 12:07

I wouldn't. Its much better to learn how to do it properly.

Set your HTT multi to 4, put a divider on your ram, probably by lowering the speed to 333, enable pci locks if the option is there and then raise the fsb just a little bit, boot into windows and use cpuz to see what its doing to your ram. My asus board has some very perculiar ram settings but yours might be much easier.

If you have any problems, give me a shout, i have two asus boards and although both have completely different bios's they should be similar to yours. You may find that the memory settings are hidden in cpu settings somewhere.

Welcome to the forums btw. I hope you'll join the fold...

Deception · 31 May 2006 at 12:43

Ok thanks a lot. I'll be sure to read more of that overclockers guide aswell..

Deception · 31 May 2006 at 13:21

So what you think would be the max possible OC with that chip and mobo (just to give me an idea of what to expect)

A.N.Other · 31 May 2006 at 13:53

Welcome to the forums

You can look here and here for OCs with your chip (although take some of the data from the first link with a pinch of salt - look for the average clocks). Hope that helps.

Another vote for F@H ...

Deception · 31 May 2006 at 14:13

A.N.Other said:
Welcome to the forums

You can look here and here for OCs with your chip (although take some of the data from the first link with a pinch of salt - look for the average clocks). Hope that helps.

Another vote for F@H ...

That helps a lot, thanks

Deception · 3 Jun 2006 at 18:39

Hey again... I was wondering if the Asus AI Booster program is any good, as i got it with my mobo. Does it help at all, as it bypasses the whole having to reboot into bios thing to increase/decrease Overclock settings.

Joe42 · 3 Jun 2006 at 20:55

I think it just does what Ai overclocking does in the bios. Increases various things by various small percentages when the cpu is under load.

Its not proper overclocking, and i don't think its particularly safe either. I wouldn't and don't use it on either of my asus boards.

Deception · 4 Jun 2006 at 23:51

Joe42 said:
I think it just does what Ai overclocking does in the bios. Increases various things by various small percentages when the cpu is under load.

Its not proper overclocking, and i don't think its particularly safe either. I wouldn't and don't use it on either of my asus boards.

It actually has a tools, that allow you to overclock just like in the Bios, for example:

http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=Booster.022.JPG

Though I can see your point.. Because if it crashed your computer then you still need to reboot and fiddle in bios in order to get back to the desktop

Stan_Lite · 5 Jun 2006 at 06:46

I tried using the AI overclocking tool a while back but found that at anything over 105%, I had stability problems.

By doing it the "proper way", I got the same system to 120%, stable.

In essence, the AI tool is ok for mild overclocks but the benefits are hardly noticable. If you want a decent overclock, you're going to have to get your hands dirty and muck about with the bios (it's much more fun that way anyway

)

Stan

Joe42 · 5 Jun 2006 at 21:23

Bigstan said:
dirty and muck

Talking of which, Asus have a nasty habit of raising voltages and frequencies just a smidgen over what you set them at in order to beat other boards in pointless benchmarks and the Ai overclocking thingy is really just an extension of that... Can you tell i'm getting a little cheesed off with asus

Deception · 5 Jun 2006 at 22:06

Joe42 said:
Can you tell i'm getting a little cheesed off with asus

Cheesed off, you? Nah I wouldnt think so

Deception · 6 Jun 2006 at 09:56

Oh yea, while we're on the subject, I have a TT blue orb II lying around somewhere and I was wondering if it would be a better cooler than the current stock one I have.

A.N.Other · 6 Jun 2006 at 11:52

I don't know much about the Blue Orb II but it will probably give you better results than the stock heatsink. Swap them over and have a look, you can always put the stock on back on if its worse. Get some AS5 if you don't already have some and use that to seat them (remembering that AS5 sets over time, so the temps will drop (only 1~2C though at max)).

Deception · 6 Jun 2006 at 12:19

Hmm I replaced the stock cooler with the blue orb, its running at 23c idle.. Though when I open the asus probe to see voltage and temp.. the alarm keeps goin off for the vcore as it jumps from 1.38v down to 1.34v then back up.. Will that be a problem? Bloody thing nearly gave me an heart attack..

*edit2* Ok sorry about all that.. I just checked on the amd site and 1.35v/1.4v is natural.. The whole alarm thing just scared me

A.N.Other · 6 Jun 2006 at 12:42

Is there a PC Health / Monitoring section of that BIOS? Go by that, if there is one. You'd have to ask other people with your board about what happens to them - start a thread in mobos or something.

My board reports voltages incorrectly (1.85 reported in CPUZ and other apps, but its 1.4 VCore), so it may well be nothing to worry about.

comp builder · 6 Jun 2006 at 16:08

Deception said:
and an Asus A8V-E SE mobo.

I know this has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about but i had to enquire if you had had probs deception
Did you have problems with your on board sound (if you have on board sound that is).
thanks

Deception · 6 Jun 2006 at 18:12

comp builder said:
I know this has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about but i had to enquire if you had had probs deception
Did you have problems with your on board sound (if you have on board sound that is).
thanks

Ive had no problems at all with the board, not even the sound. I was just enquiring, what were my possibilities with overclocking my cpu.

Joe42 · 6 Jun 2006 at 18:55

comp builder said:
I know this has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about but i had to enquire if you had had probs deception
Did you have problems with your on board sound (if you have on board sound that is).
thanks

Have you checked that you have two jumpers over the front panel sound pins?
See this picture, top left you will see two blue jumpers just below the 3rd pci slot. If those jumpers aren't there the front two channels don't work. If its conencted to the front audio connectors make sure that both pins with the jumpers on in the picture are connected to it.

Deception · 14 Jun 2006 at 14:09

uh Hi again..

When looking around my bios, I cant seem to find the HT multi :confused:

If anyone knows where I can find it, it would be helpful.. (I can find all the other OC options, just not the HT multi part)

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