Your bad driving encounters

Yaayuh! said:
Almost every day on the way back from work I get stuck behind someone at the end of the slip road joining a dual carriageway. I don't understand why people try to join at 50 when the traffic is 70. They just get all hesitant and make their life more difficult.

It happened yesterday, but made worse by holding up two of us and there was a car on the inside lane didn't want to move over even though there was nobody in the outside line for what looked like half a mile.

Joining from a slip road shouldn't be this hard!
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The slip road I use every morning is quite short and therefore terrible for this. Most drivers don't build up enough speed which results in them either having to panic and stop at the end of the slip road, or just blindly pull out at 30MPH into traffic doing 70MPH. The second option seems to be the most popular, so I see near misses at least a couple of times per week.
 
Yaayuh! said:
Almost every day on the way back from work I get stuck behind someone at the end of the slip road joining a dual carriageway. I don't understand why people try to join at 50 when the traffic is 70. They just get all hesitant and make their life more difficult.

It happened yesterday, but made worse by holding up two of us and there was a car on the inside lane didn't want to move over even though there was nobody in the outside line for what looked like half a mile.

Joining from a slip road shouldn't be this hard!
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One of the issues here is that few people already on a fast road make any attempt to try and accommodate people joining, which makes those of a more timid disposition even more hesitant. But ultimately it is lethal if people try and creep join onto a fast road. What doesn't help either is it that it seems increasingly there is hideously bad design when implementing joining roads without sufficient visibility between traffic on approach either.

geekman said:
The slip road I use every morning is quite short and therefore terrible for this. Most drivers don't build up enough speed which results in them either having to panic and stop at the end of the slip road, or just blindly pull out at 30MPH into traffic doing 70MPH. The second option seems to be the most popular, so I see near misses at least a couple of times per week.
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There seems to be a group of people hesitant to put their foot down under any circumstances - just can't get the mentality personally.
 
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40mph road, car waiting at a junction to pull out, and waits, until I’m near enough of course for it to cause an issue when she then pulls out. I beep because I’ve got to slow considerably for this moron, to which instead of apologising she flips me off and then as expected, brake checks me at the next roundabout.

No idea why so many people react by brake checking because a) your on my dashcam and b) I’ve got far far stronger brakes than you, so it makes little different ultimately.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
40mph road, car waiting at a junction to pull out, and waits, until I’m near enough of course for it to cause an issue when she then pulls out. I beep because I’ve got to slow considerably for this moron, to which instead of apologising she flips me off and then as expected, brake checks me at the next roundabout.

No idea why so many people react by brake checking because a) your on my dashcam and b) I’ve got far far stronger brakes than you, so it makes little different ultimately.
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I've generally got used to driving in a manner which makes it harder for people to brake check me - I've had a couple of instances in the pickup though where I've seen people who've pulled out on me consider brake checking me when I've beeped (not even aggressively) them and then change their mind LOL - sadly not a magic solution but one of the reasons I like driving the pickup as about 50% of people are less inclined to mess about with a semi-murdered out pickup.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
40mph road, car waiting at a junction to pull out, and waits, until I’m near enough of course for it to cause an issue when she then pulls out. I beep because I’ve got to slow considerably for this moron, to which instead of apologising she flips me off and then as expected, brake checks me at the next roundabout.

No idea why so many people react by brake checking because a) your on my dashcam and b) I’ve got far far stronger brakes than you, so it makes little different ultimately.
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C'mon, share the dash cam footage :p
 
cheesefest said:
Drivers that use the service road to skip the traffic. When I’m in line with the exit, I make sure they don’t go before me.
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I have mixed feelings about this in general as if people just let them in and they think they can get away with it they'll do it more often - but I've seen a few instances where people have ended up in a bad position through no fault of their own trying to merge in with other traffic and people still block them from getting in and I'm not OK with that at all.

One that ****** me off the other day was when someone went around on a roundabout to clear the way for an emergency vehicle, and then a load of people who could quite clearly see what they'd done just continued to move into the space blocking them getting back into the queue - ******* small minded ********.
 
The 2 that I find annoying both involve indicators and lane changes on multi-lane carriageways... I'll do my best to explain:

1. The people who indicate and move change lanes at the same time giving the driver who they end up in front of no real notice of their intent.

The person doing it knows in their mind they want to change lanes but they fail to understand that this intent needs to be communicated in plenty of time to allow others to recognise this and then get annoyed if they get beeped or flashed because "that person should have let me in, I indicated"... No, you didn't - you moved and flashed your indicator at the same time.


2. The person who pulls up alongside or just slightly ahead (so their driver window in alongside your bonnet) and then, when they indicate to move over to the lane you're in, they expect YOU to pull back and let them in.

NO. If you want to pull in front of me then get your full car ahead of mine and there would be no problem, they'll be loads of room... Indicating when in the "problem" position means you should be pulling in behind me as you've pulled far enough in front of the car behind to show your intent.
 
Richie said:
The 2 that I find annoying both involve indicators and lane changes on multi-lane carriageways... I'll do my best to explain:

1. The people who indicate and move change lanes at the same time giving the driver who they end up in front of no real notice of their intent.

The person doing it knows in their mind they want to change lanes but they fail to understand that this intent needs to be communicated in plenty of time to allow others to recognise this and then get annoyed if they get beeped or flashed because "that person should have let me in, I indicated"... No, you didn't - you moved and flashed your indicator at the same time.


2. The person who pulls up alongside or just slightly ahead (so their driver window in alongside your bonnet) and then, when they indicate to move over to the lane you're in, they expect YOU to pull back and let them in.

NO. If you want to pull in front of me then get your full car ahead of mine and there would be no problem, they'll be loads of room... Indicating when in the "problem" position means you should be pulling in behind me as you've pulled far enough in front of the car behind to show your intent.
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The problem for me is when they are leveling, I don't think you'd even see their indicators (not to mention they must have seen you, but probably ignore that fact). The indicate and move at the same time is annoying though, very dangerous and stupid imo.
 
theone8181 said:
The problem for me is when they are leveling, I don't think you'd even see their indicators (not to mention they must have seen you, but probably ignore that fact). The indicate and move at the same time is annoying though, very dangerous and stupid imo.
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It is kind of instinctive and I find a lot of people for some reason are incredibly resistant or reluctant to improving their standard of driving and learning from what happens when they drive. In that respect one of the things I had to learn to do was to kind of shortcut my reactions - if something looked different, out of place or whatever when driving instead of waiting for my brain to figure it out already start slowing, braking or covering the brakes, etc.
 
Richie said:
2. The person who pulls up alongside or just slightly ahead (so their driver window in alongside your bonnet) and then, when they indicate to move over to the lane you're in, they expect YOU to pull back and let them in.
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yes, raining@night last week had a lorry driver/HGV on the A14 going west overtaking myself nearside lane, behind a horse box, both doing about 55, I wasn't sure when I would need to exit,
as he was adjacent he/his-gps must have told him the M10 south was coming up, which I didn't know either, so he indicated left, expecting me to brake and let him back, which I didn't do , so he missed his exit, klaxoning
the road was starting to incline so I initially thought he was running out of power, as hgv drivers often do, might have been more sympathetic had I know road better.
 
Richie said:
2. The person who pulls up alongside or just slightly ahead (so their driver window in alongside your bonnet) and then, when they indicate to move over to the lane you're in, they expect YOU to pull back and let them in.
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There is a dangerous one with this, and/or people joining from a junction, where they can't see for instance a motorbike which might be in the next lane stopping you from pulling over or the fast moving vehicle coming up behind which means you can't do anything safely to accommodate them but they still try to push across like idiots. I've seen at least 2 crashes happen in front of me due to this.
 
But it's ultimately not your responsibility to accommodate their poor driving.

I'm not saying don't be considerate but there comes a point where you are unable to adjust to accommodate their stupidity/selfishness.

Don't get me wrong, I no longer get wound up by it... They can pull in behind and flash/honk/tailgate till the coes come home, I just ignore it.
 
I used to be a Project Manager (amongst other jobs) and I had a sign on my desk: "Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on mine".

It applies to driiving as well. Plan ahead, get to the right speed, get in the right lane early and don't be a ****.
 
Richie said:
But it's ultimately not your responsibility to accommodate their poor driving.

I'm not saying don't be considerate but there comes a point where you are unable to adjust to accommodate their stupidity/selfishness.

Don't get me wrong, I no longer get wound up by it... They can pull in behind and flash/honk/tailgate till the coes come home, I just ignore it.
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Sometimes they'll start to physically encroach on you to try and bully you to move - some of the worst ones will just go and expect you to avoid the collision, which makes for a difficult situation. I'll try and find a picture I posted before but I've seen more than one instance of it happening in front of me turning into a crash.
 
"Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on mine".
variant of the 7ps Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance

....yep aforementioned lorry tried bullying wheel on the lane separator ..
 
jpaul said:
"Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on mine".
variant of the 7ps Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance

....yep aforementioned lorry tried bullying wheel on the lane separator ..
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On the other hand when it comes to dealing with these people planning will only go so far unfortunately.
 
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