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Start pulling out as much as you can every day and treat with vibrant. It will go away eventually, nothing in the reef world is a quick fix

Alternativly buy a sea hare, they eat the stuff and will clear it all out in a few days, try to get somewhere that will let you return it after its all gone or it will starve and die.

I can recomend a place that will send you
One if you have no where local
 
Vibrant will take about 20 doses to kick in, like Mr noobcannon says nothing in the reef is fast, just watch out for the vibrant and cyano.
 
Help, it's getting worse :(

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Fluconazole doesn't appear to have done anything, got some more on order, will do a big water change and dose again, anything else to try?

Would getting a reactor for my rowaphos help, or is that going to be pointless because it's all tied up in the algae?

sorry have not read the whole thread but how old is your tank and how much fish do you have and what size is the tank?.

I would definatley get a reactor for roawaphos simply because its much more effective and easier to change out. Dont be tempted to overdo the amount of rowaphos used if using a reactor.

but i assume you have algae problem and there can be many reasons for this but the main one is over feeding and over stocking and there are others like leeching rocks and very skewed water chemistry.

are you carbon dosing?

what are your water parameters ie nitrate, salinity, phosphate, calcium, mag, alk.

I would also avoid adding medication to a display tank or anything that promises to fix your problems with no effort. Marine tanks take effort and time and lots of it.
 
sorry have not read the whole thread but how old is your tank and how much fish do you have and what size is the tank?.

Tank is about 8-9 months old now, 136l,

Fish:
2 clowns
1 banggai cardinal
1 lemon peel angel

Cuc:
Emerald crab
Peppermint shrimp
Strawberry conch
3 trochus snail
4-6 cerith snail

but i assume you have algae problem and there can be many reasons for this but the main one is over feeding and over stocking and there are others like leeching rocks and very skewed water chemistry.

are you carbon dosing?

what are your water parameters ie nitrate, salinity, phosphate, calcium, mag, alk.

I've cut down feeding to a small pinch of flake every other day, I would have thought if it was the rocks the problem would have shown sooner?

Water params are fine, last check a couple of days ago:

Temp 26
Salinity 1.025
Nitrates 0
Phosphate not quite 0 but too low to measure accurately ( <0.03ppt)
Calc 420
Mg 1425
Alk 8.6

No to carbon dosing.

The only thing I've changed recently is making my own RODI & salt - it seems like its gotten worse since then, which doesn't really make sense since my water measures 0 TDS whereas the fish shop's was sometimes 2-3

I've ordered some vibrant and will keep up with pulling it out every couple of days

Unfortunately my pocillopora is looking a bit worse for wear this morning, only a couple of polyps left by the looks of it
 
Tank is about 8-9 months old now, 136l,

Fish:
2 clowns
1 banggai cardinal
1 lemon peel angel

Cuc:
Emerald crab
Peppermint shrimp
Strawberry conch
3 trochus snail
4-6 cerith snail



I've cut down feeding to a small pinch of flake every other day, I would have thought if it was the rocks the problem would have shown sooner?

Water params are fine, last check a couple of days ago:

Temp 26
Salinity 1.025
Nitrates 0
Phosphate not quite 0 but too low to measure accurately ( <0.03ppt)
Calc 420
Mg 1425
Alk 8.6

No to carbon dosing.

The only thing I've changed recently is making my own RODI & salt - it seems like its gotten worse since then, which doesn't really make sense since my water measures 0 TDS whereas the fish shop's was sometimes 2-3

I've ordered some vibrant and will keep up with pulling it out every couple of days

Unfortunately my pocillopora is looking a bit worse for wear this morning, only a couple of polyps left by the looks of it


Sea hare...

http://www.marineaquariumservice.com/sea-hare-hair-algae-eating-machine/

Wont solve your problem but will definatly keep your tank looking good whilst you either go thru this phase or find out the cause.
 
Tank is about 8-9 months old now, 136l,

Fish:
2 clowns
1 banggai cardinal
1 lemon peel angel

Cuc:
Emerald crab
Peppermint shrimp
Strawberry conch
3 trochus snail
4-6 cerith snail



I've cut down feeding to a small pinch of flake every other day, I would have thought if it was the rocks the problem would have shown sooner?

Water params are fine, last check a couple of days ago:

Temp 26
Salinity 1.025
Nitrates 0
Phosphate not quite 0 but too low to measure accurately ( <0.03ppt)
Calc 420
Mg 1425
Alk 8.6

No to carbon dosing.

The only thing I've changed recently is making my own RODI & salt - it seems like its gotten worse since then, which doesn't really make sense since my water measures 0 TDS whereas the fish shop's was sometimes 2-3

I've ordered some vibrant and will keep up with pulling it out every couple of days

Unfortunately my pocillopora is looking a bit worse for wear this morning, only a couple of polyps left by the looks of it

I am not sure what corals you have but nitrates measuring 0 is not healthy for any of them depending on what you are stocking SPS, LPS, ect that will ultimately determine what level you need. Its really a trial and error but 0 is not good, try for something near 3- 5 and see if your coral improves and similarly for phosphates, you need a little in the system like 0.02-0.03. If you starve it completely they will waste away. Sometime even sever algae growth can affect coral growth as they can strip nutrients fast. But your water chemistry looks good.

what is your lighting like? what are you using and what is your lighting duration. When i had a serious algae problem I cut back my light and then also moved the spectrum more towards the blues and it helped quite some what in slowing down its growth, the corals did sulk a little and I even lost one or two but it helped with the rapid growth.

where did you get your live rock and sand from? were they second had or used before? how long did you cycle your tank before adding live stock. I usually recommend to everyone cycling a new tank with live rock to use a protein skimmer and regular phosphate remover and testing. If phosphate is not properly dealt with it will attack to rocks only to leech out later, even though test kit will show good phosphate level the algae get to it quick, specially if you have lots.

just pull as much as you can out by hand and try cutting down your lighting and feeding for a while, the fish will be fine. I would also try not add anything new to the tank, this is just a phase you must go through. The corals can take slightly lower light for a while anyway but try not to cut back to crazy levels, the corals will let you know.

I would also test your DI water for nitrates and phosphates and see what they are, those hand held TDS meters are not always accurate. Sometimes changing salt can cause system imbalance and outbreaks of things like cyano and it could be a potential cause.

Also this is a new tank by marine standards and algae and cyano outbreaks are almost given and they will burn themselves out eventually in most cases and I had a similar phase when starting out, with both cyano and hairs algae and from time to time get outbreaks that burn out. So don't give up just be patient and keep water parameters good and try not to dose your display tank too much with miracle cures. Give it few months and see how it goes and if it does not work then you can try other things more drastic.
 
I am not sure what corals you have but nitrates measuring 0 is not healthy for any of them depending on what you are stocking SPS, LPS, ect that will ultimately determine what level you need. Its really a trial and error but 0 is not good, try for something near 3- 5 and see if your coral improves and similarly for phosphates, you need a little in the system like 0.02-0.03. If you starve it completely they will waste away. Sometime even sever algae growth can affect coral growth as they can strip nutrients fast. But your water chemistry looks good.

I have a toadstool leather, and a couple of small frags: candy cane, zoa, favia, plating montipora and pocillopora.

Toadstool and montipora seem happy and are growing well, candy cane appears healthy enough, but not really growing, favia looks like it's bleaching slightly at the moment, and the pocillopora appears to have pretty much died overnight :(

what is your lighting like? what are you using and what is your lighting duration. When i had a serious algae problem I cut back my light and then also moved the spectrum more towards the blues and it helped quite some what in slowing down its growth, the corals did sulk a little and I even lost one or two but it helped with the rapid growth.

I'm using 2x Kessil A160we, 09:00 - 19:00 period peaking at 60% intensity at midday

I'll try lowering the white level and drop the intensity, see if that makes a difference :)

where did you get your live rock and sand from? were they second had or used before? how long did you cycle your tank before adding live stock. I usually recommend to everyone cycling a new tank with live rock to use a protein skimmer and regular phosphate remover and testing. If phosphate is not properly dealt with it will attack to rocks only to leech out later, even though test kit will show good phosphate level the algae get to it quick, specially if you have lots.

Live rock was a mix - most of it was dead & dried from someone who had broken down their tank - scrubbed, and then soaked in RODI for a couple of days before sticking in the tank. Also a couple of bits from the LFS to seed the rest of it. Sand was dry aragonite, can't remember the brand, but from the LFS, thoroughly rinsed, first in tap water then last rinse with RODI.

I would also test your DI water for nitrates and phosphates and see what they are, those hand held TDS meters are not always accurate. Sometimes changing salt can cause system imbalance and outbreaks of things like cyano and it could be a potential cause.

Tested it, both plain RODI and freshly mixed salt, and both are 0 on nitrates and phosphates. I'm using the same brand salt as my LFS were using, so unless I have a bad batch I don't think it's that - only difference is I have increased the salinity slightly - theirs was at 1.023sg

Also this is a new tank by marine standards and algae and cyano outbreaks are almost given and they will burn themselves out eventually in most cases and I had a similar phase when starting out, with both cyano and hairs algae and from time to time get outbreaks that burn out. So don't give up just be patient and keep water parameters good and try not to dose your display tank too much with miracle cures. Give it few months and see how it goes and if it does not work then you can try other things more drastic.

I guess at the moment I'm more concerned about it smothering my corals than appearance - I'm realise it's not going to be a quick fix, but feels like a losing battle constantly trying to keep the frags clear!!
 
Live rock was a mix - most of it was dead & dried from someone who had broken down their tank - scrubbed, and then soaked in RODI for a couple of days before sticking in the tank. Also a couple of bits from the LFS to seed the rest of it. Sand was dry aragonite, can't remember the brand, but from the LFS, thoroughly rinsed, first in tap water then last rinse with RODI.

This could potentially be why you are having this problem but nothing is for certain 100%. I generally do not use rock from another reef tank that has just been closed down unless i know the tank and its condition prior to closure. The rocks could potentially be leaching phosphate and this whole process will take some time to exhaust itself so you will have to bear with it, anywhere form 6-9 months from my previous experience with bad rock.

get a rowaphos reactor worth getting one as its makes more efficient use of your rowaphos rather than lumped up in a media bag with insufficient flow through it. This will absorb phosphate leeching from rock, you will eventually reach equilibrium between the rock and tank phosphate levels.

just keep cutting the algae back one day you will find they are all gone just don't add to the problem by controlling the amount of lighting and feeding within reason.

are you running a protein skimmer, if not then you should.

your salinity is better suited for mix coral reef and i generally prefer closer to 1.025/6sg my corals prefer it much more.

Your lighting is more than adequate for a 130L just play with the spectrum and see what happens.

I know how you feel, I have been to hell and back with my tank and the dramas it has unfolded in my life:)

good luck
 
get a rowaphos reactor worth getting one as its makes more efficient use of your rowaphos rather than lumped up in a media bag with insufficient flow through it. This will absorb phosphate leeching from rock, you will eventually reach equilibrium between the rock and tank phosphate levels.

I'm guessing something like the 2 little fishies phosban reactor 150 or d-d h2ocean will be adequate for my size tank?


are you running a protein skimmer, if not then you should.

Yeah, I have a tunze 9004


good luck

Thanks, I realise it's not a quick process! :)
 
I'm guessing something like the 2 little fishies phosban reactor 150 or d-d h2ocean will be adequate for my size tank?

Either one will be fine, you can buy the d & d as a kit with with pump and fittings included for something like £70. Whatever you buy just make sure you install a ball valve somewhere to control the flow, i think the 2 little fishies one is supplied with one best to check before ordering.


Yeah, I have a tunze 9004

thats a good skimmer, personally prefer deltec skimmers but they are expensive.
 
Ordered the D-D as it comes with all the hoses and flow control valve included, and an eheim compact 300 pump for it :)

The Tunze skimmer is recommended on a lot of forums as the upgrade for my tank (fluval m90) - there is limited space in the rear sump, so without big modifications to the tank, the choices are quite limited! (I'd probably get murdered if I suggested having an external one sat in the living room :p)
 
So im unsure why im still battling cyno, I can't measure phosphates so its being burned out my pukani and sand faster by cyno than it absorbs into my chemical media so maybe thats spent?

Perameters
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 25ppm (Little high i know, left a sponge in too long)
Phosphate: 0.00 on salifert
SG: 1.025
pH: 8.2

In my sump i skim wet, run purigen, run activated carbon and run phosguard

Stock and corals

2x Clownfish
1x Cleaner shrimp
2x Hermit crabs
2x Snails
Big zoa colony
Hammer single frag
Acans x3 head
Pulsing xenia

Can anyone recommend anything?
 
So im unsure why im still battling cyno, I can't measure phosphates so its being burned out my pukani and sand faster by cyno than it absorbs into my chemical media so maybe thats spent?

Perameters
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 25ppm (Little high i know, left a sponge in too long)
Phosphate: 0.00 on salifert
SG: 1.025
pH: 8.2

In my sump i skim wet, run purigen, run activated carbon and run phosguard

Stock and corals

2x Clownfish
1x Cleaner shrimp
2x Hermit crabs
2x Snails
Big zoa colony
Hammer single frag
Acans x3 head
Pulsing xenia

Can anyone recommend anything?

Are you talking of purple slime or the nasty brown snot type
 
Ah, from my experience thats a wait for it to go away algee, didnt find anything to eat it.

Alternatively can use vibrant as above but not a quick fix for cyno
Its dying off slowly
Just very slow as all things in hobby :D

Syphoning it out daily, washing sand if it comes out and back in it goes. Iv gone from vacuuming whole sand bed to less than 1/3 in 2 weeks :) its dying
 
Its dying off slowly
Just very slow as all things in hobby :D

Syphoning it out daily, washing sand if it comes out and back in it goes. Iv gone from vacuuming whole sand bed to less than 1/3 in 2 weeks :) its dying

Good luck :)

Disheartening seeing your tank look bad. But much like british weather, for that one day a year when everything’s actually going right its all worth it :)
 
Good luck :)

Disheartening seeing your tank look bad. But much like british weather, for that one day a year when everything’s actually going right its all worth it :)

It cheers me up to see my corals grow very strongly though :) Water perams may be a fight at times but seeing the corals in colour, open happy. Fish swimming makes it worth it
 
We want to get our first aquarium, I think 20 gallons with a cabinet and canister filter, any recommendations?
 
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