Your current Fish tank Setups!

Might have to look at rehoming our Lemonpeel... the last couple of weeks it's gotten quite aggressive, particularly towards the cardinals. Noticed of one them not looking very happy this morning as I was leaving for work, and came home to a happy looking crab and 1 less fish... wouldn't surprise me if it was because of the bullying. It's been mostly leaving the clowns alone so far though.

Will keep an eye on it for now, but it's still going for the other cardinal
 
Might have to look at rehoming our Lemonpeel... the last couple of weeks it's gotten quite aggressive, particularly towards the cardinals. Noticed of one them not looking very happy this morning as I was leaving for work, and came home to a happy looking crab and 1 less fish... wouldn't surprise me if it was because of the bullying. It's been mostly leaving the clowns alone so far though.

Will keep an eye on it for now, but it's still going for the other cardinal

Try a flame angel, keep it well fed and corals should be fine.
 
Could it be that the Cardinals are slow swimmers and that's made them a target? Shame to get rid of the Lemonpeel, it's such a nice looking fish. Clownfish especially female ones can look after themselves.
 
Yeah, that's entirely possible, they do tend to just float around, I know the clowns can be pretty feisty, they've gone for my hand before when I've been cleaning! Hopefully the Lemonpeel will leave them alone, as you say it's a beautiful fish and really active & entertaining to watch
 
I'm just looking for some advice on a new tank for a noobie, if you don't mind. :p

At the moment, we have 2 gold fish (they are in what is roughly a 30L donut shaped bowl). They are about 3-4 years old and I figured it was time they had a decent size tank. I was looking at something along the lines of http://www.swelluk.com/juwel-rekord-700-aquarium/ as a decent amount of space for them (Quite like their example video, clean looking setup). Should also make it easier to clean with a more conventional shape. I plan on adding a few more fish later down the line, but not yet (I know only certain types will get on with gold fish without them out growing them and eating them?!).

Does that tank seem ok? If so, where do I go from here? What kind of substrate should I use? Gravel or sand? I personally prefer the look of sand, but I don't know if gravel would be more suitable.
A slightly stupid question, where do people get decent size (100-200mm) rocks from that wont effect the tank's water? :p Everywhere I've looked online seem to sell in bulk, and I don't fancy paying that much (£150-£200+) when I only need 3 or so medium to large size rocks.

I was also thinking about using real plants. Anyone have any recommendation for a cold water tank? Maybe 2-3 different types?

Is there anything else I need that I haven't mentioned? The tank does come with a filter, no idea how good it will be though. What about monitoring things like ph and o2 in the water and what not?

I've been banging my head against a wall all day trying to wrap my head around all this with no real answers, just more confusion.:D
 
Regarding rocks, slate is pretty inert, I just went to the local garden centre and picked out a few nice chunks and jetwashed then soaked them for a couple of days to get any gunk off them, cost me about £10 for 3 decent sized pieces
 
I'm just looking for some advice on a new tank for a noobie, if you don't mind. :p

At the moment, we have 2 gold fish (they are in what is roughly a 30L donut shaped bowl). They are about 3-4 years old and I figured it was time they had a decent size tank. I was looking at something along the lines of http://www.swelluk.com/juwel-rekord-700-aquarium/ as a decent amount of space for them (Quite like their example video, clean looking setup). Should also make it easier to clean with a more conventional shape. I plan on adding a few more fish later down the line, but not yet (I know only certain types will get on with gold fish without them out growing them and eating them?!).

Does that tank seem ok? If so, where do I go from here? What kind of substrate should I use? Gravel or sand? I personally prefer the look of sand, but I don't know if gravel would be more suitable.
A slightly stupid question, where do people get decent size (100-200mm) rocks from that wont effect the tank's water? :p Everywhere I've looked online seem to sell in bulk, and I don't fancy paying that much (£150-£200+) when I only need 3 or so medium to large size rocks.

I was also thinking about using real plants. Anyone have any recommendation for a cold water tank? Maybe 2-3 different types?

Is there anything else I need that I haven't mentioned? The tank does come with a filter, no idea how good it will be though. What about monitoring things like ph and o2 in the water and what not?

I've been banging my head against a wall all day trying to wrap my head around all this with no real answers, just more confusion.:D

I have had a few juwel tanks and found the built in filter pretty rubbish, get an external filter is far better giving the waste goldfish produce, just cut the built in filter out is what i do.

Keep away from sand and gravel and use aqua soil, really good for growing plants and looks better imo.

https://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/aq...532_220.html?zenid=o379li5qdesm8p3ibes5ii9bp5

https://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/coldwater-plants-c-255_562.html?zenid=o379li5qdesm8p3ibes5ii9bp5
 
My jewels been fine for over two years, if you're in it just as a toe dipping hobbyist you'll be fine without purchasing an extra external filter.
 
I'm just looking for some advice on a new tank for a noobie, if you don't mind. :p

At the moment, we have 2 gold fish (they are in what is roughly a 30L donut shaped bowl). They are about 3-4 years old and I figured it was time they had a decent size tank. I was looking at something along the lines of http://www.swelluk.com/juwel-rekord-700-aquarium/ as a decent amount of space for them (Quite like their example video, clean looking setup). Should also make it easier to clean with a more conventional shape. I plan on adding a few more fish later down the line, but not yet (I know only certain types will get on with gold fish without them out growing them and eating them?!).

Does that tank seem ok? If so, where do I go from here? What kind of substrate should I use? Gravel or sand? I personally prefer the look of sand, but I don't know if gravel would be more suitable.
A slightly stupid question, where do people get decent size (100-200mm) rocks from that wont effect the tank's water? :p Everywhere I've looked online seem to sell in bulk, and I don't fancy paying that much (£150-£200+) when I only need 3 or so medium to large size rocks.

I was also thinking about using real plants. Anyone have any recommendation for a cold water tank? Maybe 2-3 different types?

Is there anything else I need that I haven't mentioned? The tank does come with a filter, no idea how good it will be though. What about monitoring things like ph and o2 in the water and what not?

I've been banging my head against a wall all day trying to wrap my head around all this with no real answers, just more confusion.:D

Hello,

What kind of Goldfish do you have? I have a pair of Comet's at the moment, along with a Bristlenose Catfish (had them a couple of years).

Goldfish do really require quite a lot of room to move about, so the bigger the tank the better. Up until recently I had mine in a 120 litre tank, but have moved to something bigger now.

For substrate, I started with gravel and have now moved to sand. The gravel was a complete pain to clean compared to the sand, so apart from it getting into the filter, I prefer the sand. I also think the sand looks better, so it was an easy decision for me.

I picked up some rocks at my local aquarium, but they weren't cheap. Like has been suggested, slate is pretty good. I would also recommend some bog wood if you want the natural look.

I tried real plants for a while, but I gave up for two reasons; they kept dying and the Goldfish ate them. I am sure many people on here keep real plants in their tanks successfully, but I have never had much luck. I gave up in the end and went to plastic, which I think still looks ok.

Goldfish are pretty dirty fish when it comes to waste, so I feel a good filter is important. I had a Fluval 306 on mine, but that could be considered overkill, so perhaps a smaller model would suffice. Really easy to plumb in and maintain.

And, just for good measure, here is what my tank looks like at the moment:

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Thanks for the replies guys. I am having second thoughts about using real plants. It also means I can use any I like the look of if I go for artificial.

@shahpor

I think they are Common Goldfish, but it would be nice to get a different type in the future to go with them.

I quite like your setup, clean and tidy!

Slate does look nice, so I might opt for that. My local Dobbies has a Maidenhead Aquatics, so I'll have a little look and see what they have.
 
Yeah, it doesn't always look this clean :)

The problem with mixing common (Comet) and Fancy goldfish is that the Fancy's tend to swim slower, so they can have trouble getting to the food before the Comets eat it. Also, there might be some bullying.

All the plants you see there are plastic, and along with the stones and bog wood, all bought from my local Maidenhead Aquatics. I can't speak for all of them, but my local store has been brilliant, especially when I was having some water problems a while back.
 
Hi Mart, some bad advice in this thread. Don't accept anything you read on the internet as golden when it comes to fish keeping (including what I say). Same applies for what they tell you at the fish store for that matter.

I would stay clear of plants on that tank. An 8W LED on a 70L tank isn't really going to grow much. Plants can be done with goldfish but you are really limited on what they won't eat.

As for the poster suggesting above to use aqua soil, absolutely do not do this with goldfish!!! Aqua soil is really light and breaks down easily, goldfish but everything in their mouth constantly. It is just a recipe for disaster.

I would go for something a like a course sand with a grain size of 2-4mm minimum. You don't need much, just 1cm is plenty. The more you put in the less water you will have and a 70L tank is considered small, especially for 2 goldfish which typically need much larger tanks. Recommended is a minimum of 90L for a single fancy goldfish and then an extra 45L for each additional goldfish. Smaller can be done but isn't recommended as it can lead to stunted growth and poor water quality.

Assuming your set on that tank and don't have space for anything bigger the inbuilt filter will likely be fine though, anything external will likely have far too much flow for a 70L tank and goldfish. A filter that turns the water over 3-4 times an hour is more than enough for goldfish. The smallest Fluval (106) external does 550L/hour which is 8X the volume, great for little tetras from fast moving streams but not for goldfish with long flowing fins.

As for stocking with goldfish, my advice is don't bother. Goldfish are a bit like babies, they like to put everything in their mouth and peck at things. This includes fish, anything small like a white cloud risks getting eaten, anything bigger like a zebra danio will out compete them for food. Shrimp and snails are out for obvious reasons (nom nom!).

You can do heater with goldfish which opens up some tropical fish but for the same reasons as above I wouldn't bother unless you know what you are doing.
 
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Hi Mart, some bad advice in this thread. Don't accept anything you read on the internet as golden when it comes to fish keeping (including what I say). Same applies for what they tell you at the fish store for that matter.

I would stay clear of plants on that tank. An 8W LED on a 70L tank isn't really going to grow much. Plants can be done with goldfish but you are really limited on what they won't eat.

As for the poster suggesting above to use aqua soil, absolutely do not do this with goldfish!!! Aqua soil is really light and breaks down easily, goldfish but everything in their mouth constantly. It is just a recipe for disaster.

I would go for something a like a course sand with a grain size of 2-4mm minimum. You don't need much, just 1cm is plenty. The more you put in the less water you will have and a 70L tank is considered small, especially for 2 goldfish which typically need much larger tanks. Recommended is a minimum of 90L for a single fancy goldfish and then an extra 45L for each additional goldfish. Smaller can be done but isn't recommended as it can lead to stunted growth and poor water quality.

Assuming your set on that tank and don't have space for anything bigger the inbuilt filter will likely be fine though, anything external will likely have far too much flow for a 70L tank and goldfish. A filter that turns the water over 3-4 times an hour is more than enough for goldfish. The smallest Fluval (106) external does 550L/hour which is 8X the volume, great for little tetras from fast moving streams but not for goldfish with long flowing fins.

As for stocking with goldfish, my advice is don't bother. Goldfish are a bit like babies, they like to put everything in their mouth and peck at things. This includes fish, anything small like a white cloud risks getting eaten, anything bigger like a zebra danio will out compete them for food. Shrimp and snails are out for obvious reasons (nom nom!).

You can do heater with goldfish which opens up some tropical fish but for the same reasons as above I wouldn't bother unless you know what you are doing.

Mate i have been keeping tanks for 33 years with little problems, aquasoil is fine for goldfish hence you may get some in the water collumn, but it wont be bad.
 
Argh my marine tanks annoying me again, Iv gone from nutrient hell (40ppm nitrate and 1ppm phos) to 0 in a month and hit cyno now. Nopox Product effeciency is great! But now im too low on it and causing issues. @Spook187 wonder if you've ever used this product on your marine? If so any advice?
 
Argh my marine tanks annoying me again, Iv gone from nutrient hell (40ppm nitrate and 1ppm phos) to 0 in a month and hit cyno now. Nopox Product effeciency is great! But now im too low on it and causing issues. @Spook187 wonder if you've ever used this product on your marine? If so any advice?

how much nopox are you dosing, there a few products for cyano, suck out increase flow any dead spots, more common in newer tanks, i do get it now and again.
 
how much nopox are you dosing, there a few products for cyano, suck out increase flow any dead spots, more common in newer tanks, i do get it now and again.
2ml per 100l. Also running in my sump is Purigen 100ml bagged and 100ml of Phosguard to combat my pukani rock leach
 
Mate i have been keeping tanks for 33 years with little problems, aquasoil is fine for goldfish hence you may get some in the water collumn, but it wont be bad.

A) No need to be rude...

B) Ok 'recipe for disaster' was a bit dramatic but using aquasoil with gold fish is just not a great choice. It will result in debris in the water because they will break it down in their mouths as they turn it over constantly and debris will get into the water column and make the water look dirty/cloudy. You even say it will end up on the water column in your post which is not normally the objective. The majority of people want as clear water as possible for the least amount of effort possible.

Lets not forget its £30-£40 for 9L which is incredibly expensive and the person is looking to buy a budget friendly all on one tank. There is also very few plants that goldfish will not just straight up eat and most of those that are widely available ones do not benefit from aquasoil. If you really wanted a planted goldfish tank something like Eco-complete or Seachem Flourite would be a much better choice.
 
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