Your game of choice MUST play at max settings at AT LEAST 60fps. Anyone else understand this logic?

any MP FPS = Lowest possible graphical settings at 1920 x 1200 for me. Don't care what it looks like.
 
ThomBassmonkey said:
30fps is usually enough for me. I don't know why people bother with 60fps, the human eye can only see about 20fps and most games are smooth enough that 30fps looks smooth.

In saying that, my computer runs most games at 60+fps anyway.
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Uhhhh, If you think the human eye/brain can only proccess 20 fps then your are clearly massivley misinformed.

Your brain/eye can proccess a single image in 1/220 of a second, thus giving a total frame rate per second of 220fps in theory.

Have you ever played a game on a 120hz monitor with 120fps....it looks so smooth in comparison to 60hz.

Not sure where this 20fps brain capacity came from.
 
francky said:
Uhhhh, If you think the human eye/brain can only proccess 20 fps then your are clearly massivley misinformed.

Your brain/eye can proccess a single image in 1/220 of a second, thus giving a total frame rate per second of 220fps in theory.

Have you ever played a game on a 120hz monitor with 120fps....it looks so smooth in comparison to 60hz.

Not sure where this 20fps brain capacity came from.
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This. I'm not sure on figures, because I haven't looked into it. All I know is that after owning a 120Hz monitor, everything is much smoother. Even in Windows, just moving windows and the mouse cursor around is a lot nicer.

I guess it all depends what you're used to. Any films that involve a slow, sweeping camera look extremely jerky to me, so the argument that the human eye can't see any frames above 20 to 30 is BS.

As for multi-player games, I don't play them to be extremely competitive. They're just a bit of fun to me, so I play with all the eye candy on. The weird thing is, I'm not a graphics whore. I'll happily play a game with terrible graphics.
 
hmmm I'm not sure i got my point across properly. I'm not saying i need to play every game maxed out, but that when a new game becomes the game that i can see myself religiously for 3+ years, that THAT game should be maxed out as ill be playing it for 1000+ hours i want it to look pretty lol.
 
My frame rate has to be above 75 frames per second, probably because I played Quake 3 for like 7 years straight on a CRT and was obsessed with maintaining frames above the elusive 125fps. I will lower the gfx to the very lowest to get the highest fps possible. I suspect most people who can tell the difference between 30fps, 60fps and even notice a difference between 60fps and 125fps are old school gamers who played old quake and Unreal games.
 
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Nope, not a troll.

The thing with FPS is that games don't put out a consistent FPS. If you're playing at 20FPS but you have 20FPS for the first half a second, then it freezes for half a second, it's not going to look smooth.

That's why videos can be a lower FPS than games and get away with it, because it's just playing back a set amount of images with minimal processing, they look fluid because they're smooth.

All games fluctuate in FPS, aiming for 60FPS is generally what it takes for the fluctuations not to be noticable. That doesn't mean that your eyes wouldn't be able to see an image that flickers up for 1/220th of a second or whatever other people have said. But a constantly moving image only needs to be a bit around 20fps (I can't remember the exact number, I've heard between 18 and 24 though) constant for it to look smooth to your eyes.

Remember, most TV/Bluray/DVD etc is 24fps. I don't see people complaining about how that flickers or looks choppy. :)
 
I'm the same. 60fps should be a standard for all games. Take Bayonetta - 60fps and one of the best games this gen. The exact same game at 30fps would have been considerably worse.
 
I just aim for fps that feels smooth to me, sometimes fps as low as 40 feels silky smooth, it depends on the game.

Especially something that isnt a twitch shooter, red orchestra 2 for instance. Dross game though.

I think I personally only have to have 60 fps if its a twitch based fps, quake live or something. Where reactions is what counts.

Strategy game? I don't look at the fps but I do aim for a pleasing level of smoothness with as much eye candy as possible with the game still feeling 'smooth' to play.
 
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ThomBassmonkey said:
30fps is usually enough for me. I don't know why people bother with 60fps, the human eye can only see about 20fps and most games are smooth enough that 30fps looks smooth.

In saying that, my computer runs most games at 60+fps anyway.
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i havent read the rest of the thread, but i came to your post and i cannot leave it alone.

first off, the whole "we cant detect more than 20/25/whatever FPS is complete BS. studies have shown that the human eye can detect a single differing frame at a rate of 200FPS or more.

for a decent explanation of why higher framerates are crucial for fast paced games (FPSs and racing games in particular) have a read of this:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_5.html

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arc@css said:
I remember when we used to have low, medium and high, now it's low, medium, high, gamer, enthusiast, ultra...etc.
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This. I hate having to click all the way through settings to see what the highest one is. Even worse when the settings actually have different words for the highest one (Eg. high for one and highest for the other).

I honestly don't have a problem with settings. I spend money on my computer when I feel an upgrade will give a personally acceptable boost based on the money spent. I don't worry too much if I have to drop down settings a bit to maintain a decent amount of smoothness.

I guess though, you mention having a "choice" game, when this isn't really something I do. I play a wide variety of games all the time, and I guess the only thing that would annoy me would be if I had to start dropping down settings to lowish settings on all games.
 
HangTime said:
Crysis is a classic example, great looking game on normal settings, yet everyone got their knickers in a twist because their $2000 system couldn't run it smoothly maxed out. If they've renamed normal settings to "SUPER DOOPER ULTRA HIGH XXX SETTINGS" and disabled everything above that it probably would have got a better reception :)
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Then again, that's exactly what they did with crysis 2...
 
Reaper 392 said:
i havent read the rest of the thread, but i came to your post and i cannot leave it alone.

first off, the whole "we cant detect more than 20/25/whatever FPS is complete BS. studies have shown that the human eye can detect a single differing frame at a rate of 200FPS or more.

for a decent explanation of why higher framerates are crucial for fast paced games (FPSs and racing games in particular) have a read of this:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_5.html

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thats not what were saying.
at 30 fps+ motion looks smooth to the human eye much more than that is a waste.
the tearing when you turn quick in a game is an issue but is that not due to refresh rate rather than fps?
 
Nothing but max settings for me, i can't stand low quality settings when gaming, and 30-40 FPS minimum for me.
 
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Elitist posts like telling people to uninstall if they can't see the difference between 30 and 60fps (people aren't allowed to enjoy games, they're only allowed to play if they live up to your standards, right?), trolling posts that don't have any actual content, they just tell other people they're wrong in the most offensive way possible (yeah, I'm totally blind and an obvious troll because I dare post my opinion, you should try posting yours) and posts where people don't read what others are saying properly then go as far as citing sites that agree with the post they're trying to disprove (Reaper, actually read that page you linked, especially the bit about what he considers acceptable framerates, then read all my posts in this thread instead of just the first one) are all classic examples of a thread worth avoiding.
 
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