Your/Weather/Too. - rant

[Scuzi]

Is it wrong to point this out?

Is it right to see people do this more and more and accept it and do nothing?

That depends on how you look at it. How would you feel if someone became irritated with you every time you posted? Let's face it, sometimes it looks as if you make up your own brand of English as you go along. That's fine considering it is not your first spoken language. However, it does come across as rather arrogant and silly when you become irritated enough to rant about how other people abuse the language.

Don't get me wrong, I hate how the language is butchered as much as you do, but I try to ensure my posts meet my own personal standards before I complain about others. I'm not infallible though, much like any other human, so I'm sure this very post is littered with errors!

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Worst - I am stupid at English thread ever. lol'z

EDIT: OP stop right there, you are digging yourself a deeper hole. lol'z.

 

[Raymond Lin]

did you just ignore the rest.

If they sound the same, how can you tell the difference, unless you analysis it.

You hear a word in your head and you type it, when you read it back again you hear a word. The words sound identical, so it does not register.

put the words side by side and I can instantly tell which one is which. Put them in a sentence and 95%+ of the time it just doesn't register.

They might sound the same, but when you type it out, they certainly don't look the same. It is not a spelling mistake, it is not past or present tense, it is not a typo, it is not a plaural or single difference. It is not the same word.

Perhaps the only way to learning Chinese is to remember it, remember how it looks, how it sounds and how it is written, down to the order of the stroke and the way the pen goes on the paper and the direction of each and every single stroke. So my English is as much visual inside my head as is audible.

That depends on how you look at it. How would you feel if someone became irritated with you every time you posted? Let's face it, sometimes it looks as if you make up your own brand of English as you go along. That's fine considering it is not your first spoken language. However, it does come across as rather arrogant and silly when you become irritated enough to rant about how other people abuse the language.

Don't get me wrong, I hate how the language is butchered as much as you do, but I try to ensure my posts meet my own personal standards before I complain about others. I'm not infallible though, much like any other human, so I'm sure this very post is littered with errors!

Hence one thread, and I am not quoting any particular persons in other threads. And it is not just one person, I see it more and more, it is more frustating than irratating. I guess this is a release of sorts as well.

 

[Glaucus]

So my English is as much visual inside my head as is audible.

See there is no visual image, only sound.

They might sound the same, but when you type it out, they certainly don't look the same. It is not a spelling mistake, it is not past or present tense, it is not a typo, it is not a plaural or single difference. It is not the same word.

never said any of that, of course it's a different word. But they are pronounced the same, you also don't read by studying every letter.

 

[Belmit]

I don't know about you, but when someone writes weather instead of whether, the sentence is instantly broken and stops making sense. I must be the only one that is irate by this.

It isn't just you Raymondo. I often see the argument on forums of 'does it matter how good the spelling is if you understand what I'm trying to say?'. Technically the answer is no, but for those of us who can tell the difference between homophones (words spelt differently that sound the same) when they're written down it means that the sentence becomes slower to read because the definition of the word changes entirely and requires extra thought to process.

The only difference between you and I is that I realised years ago that people just don't care! And of course, if you try to point it out you're a grammar/spelling nazi.

 

[Glaucus]

The only difference between you and I is that I realised years ago that people just don't care! .

How do you change something so judgemental. like how you visualise words in your head. Extra writing tuition all through primary and second school never solved.

 

[Morba]

requires extra thought to process.
.

Never seems to slow me down, is there something wrong with your brain that makes you confused?

 

[Scuzi]

See there is no visual image, only sound.


never said any of that, of course it's a different word. But they are pronounced the same, you also don't read by studying every letter.

Not everyone reads by sounding out the words in their head. I don't do that at all. I see the word and understand it without having to "say" it in my head. Whilst I know that "weather" and "whether" sound similar, they are two completely different words when I read them. It's not a case of analysing every letter.

 

[mattyprice4004]

Spelling and grammar these days is shocking, really winds me up. Even more so when they try and defend it!

 

[Morba]

Spelling and grammar these days is shocking

That sounds really wrong to me.
Spelling and grammar is spelling and grammar, what you mean is the standard of them both is shocking.

 

[Glaucus]

Not everyone reads by sounding out the words in their head. I don't do that at all. I see the word and understand it without having to "say" it in my head. Whilst I know that "weather" and "whether" sound similar, they are two completely different words when I read them. It's not a case of analysing every letter.

you are analysing them in a different way though.

 

[wordy]

Get a grip.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Belmit]

Never seems to slow me down, is there something wrong with your brain that makes you confused?

Depends what you mean by wrong. I recognise a different word that ought to make no sense in the context it's used but have worked out on the fly what the word should have been. It doesn't take me any longer to read it, but requires extra thought on my part. Overall, incorrect words being used detracts from the flow of the text and my attention to the subject being discussed, no matter how negligably.

And the reason I stopped trying to correct people on these things (or even discussing it) is because it instantly comes across as snobbery. This was never my intention.

 

[Scuzi]

you are analysing them in a different way though.

Analysing words in a different way, yes. That was the point of my post. There are different methods of reading and for some people, an incorrectly spelled word stands out like a sore thumb, even if it sounds exactly the same as the word that is intended.

 

[Casdawer]

Spelling/Grammar mistakes on the internet = I don't care.

Spelling/Grammar mistakes on official letters etc = I do care.

 

[dunno]

I wonder weather your coming to.


You are, Your

It's you're and your...

 

[Vonhelmet]

Now just what exactly is going on here, eh?

 

[Kazz]

People have different levels of grammar and spelling due to various factors?


Naaaa, that's just silly.

 

[DAIR]

I wonder weather your coming to.

Whether, Weather
To, Too
You are, Your

"I wonder whether you are coming too."

The to/too mistake can be a typo, missed out the letter O, that I can just about stand once in a while. The you're/your thing is so common I feel like English is getting dumber down by the day. But lately, I see more and more of the Whether/Weather mistake. That is not a typo, that isn't even trying to save letters when typing or texting, what is that? Do people seriously don't know and never seen the word Whether before?

Does "I wonder weather I should go out tonight" actually sounds right in your head?

/Monday morning rant over.

sorry!

This gets on my nerves too.

I often feel the need to put people right.

 

[platinum87]

The whether today is pretty bad, I'm not sure weather or not I will be going out.