YouTube and copyright music... Has something changed ?

Glaucus · 21 Dec 2016 at 00:59

despite your disclaimer you still haven't confirmed to copyright, as you haven't given credit for the source. Its also good practice to refer to the actual law rather than just say under fair usage.

and i doubt retrospective changes will help you with that video.

https://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use

What is fair use?
In copyright law, there is a concept of fair use, also known as; free use, fair dealing, or fair practice.
Fair use sets out certain actions that may be carried out, but would not normally be regarded as an infringement of the work.
The idea behind this is that if copyright laws are too restrictive, it may stifle free speech, news reporting, or result in disproportionate penalties for inconsequential or accidental inclusion.

What does fair use allow?
Under fair use rules, it may be possible to use quotations or excerpts, where the work has been made available to the public, (i.e. published). Provided that:
The use is deemed acceptable under the terms of fair dealing.
That the quoted material is justified, and no more than is necessary is included.
That the source of the quoted material is mentioned, along with the name of the author.

Typical free uses of work include:
Inclusion for the purpose of news reporting.
Incidental inclusion.
National laws typically allow limited private and educational use.

What is incidental inclusion?
This is where part of a work is unintentionally included. A typical examples of this would be a case where holiday movie inadvertently captured part of a copyright work, such as some background music, or a poster that just happened to on a wall in the background.
Points to keep in mind...
The actual specifics of what is acceptable will be governed by national laws, and although broadly similar, actual provision will vary from country to country.
Cases dealing with fair dealing can be complex, as decisions are based on individual circumstances and judgements. This can be a very difficult area of copyright law.
To avoid problems, if you are in any doubt, you are advised to always get the permission of the owner, prior to use.
UK fair dealing legislation
For specific details on fair dealing under UK law please refer to our factsheet P-27: Using the work of others.

you want something like, although you'll want the uk law not america (Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 section xxx)

Copyright Disclaimer. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.

secondly it would just be easier for you to use non copyright material, plenty of free to use videos out there, you can use to your hearts content.

Surfer · 21 Dec 2016 at 01:15

Glaucus said:
secondly it would just be easier for you to use non copyright material, plenty of free to use videos out there, you can use to your hearts content.

Probably. Apparently youtube are not exactly bastions of virtue and fairness. Anyway not gonna get my knickers in a twist. Its youtube's site they can bend me over anytime they want haha.

Ace Modder · 21 Dec 2016 at 01:23

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

V F · 21 Dec 2016 at 08:42

I never knew Youtube had such bizarre stuff looking at the thumbnails after the video. Saying that I never look for such things. What a bizarre society.

Surfer · 1 Jan 2017 at 13:41

Curiously i asked another youtuber (who had similar big movie studio content on his video but a ton more views ie about 30,000) whether he was copyright claimed on it. He wasnt hrmm...

EGuitarStar · 1 Jan 2017 at 15:41

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country (UK) on copyright grounds.

Participant · 1 Jan 2017 at 15:57

scrivz69 said:
Works fine my end.

Good for you

_Jimlad_ · 1 Jan 2017 at 19:08

I just made my new video of 2016, uploaded as a private video to share with family but YouTube mutted it because it had a coldplay song on it.

Anyone know any other alternative to YouTube where I can host my videos without all this copyright stuff.

spoffle · 1 Jan 2017 at 19:30

Surfer said:
*update

^^ The problem is i am none the wiser. I am having to provide evidence but they provide none. There is no explanation why my dispute is rejected. Im betting if i appeal this i will also lose without any explanation at all. Seems very draconian system this....

What you could start doing is including copyrighted footage from distinctly different companies in the same video. This means that neither holder would be able to put a claim for monetisation and it would remain ad free.

_Jimlad_ said:
I just made my new video of 2016, uploaded as a private video to share with family but YouTube mutted it because it had a coldplay song on it.

Anyone know any other alternative to YouTube where I can host my videos without all this copyright stuff.

Vimeo.

Kenai · 1 Jan 2017 at 19:30

Vimeo?

Diagro · 1 Jan 2017 at 19:59

Video contains content from sme.
This is blocked in your area

That's what I get

Malevolence · 1 Jan 2017 at 20:00

Plays fine for me.

Surfer · 2 Jan 2017 at 11:50

spoffle said:
What you could start doing is including copyrighted footage from distinctly different companies in the same video. This means that neither holder would be able to put a claim for monetisation and it would remain ad free.

Good Idea! Someone has been taking their weetabix this morning

SexyGreyFox · 2 Jan 2017 at 12:07

because of Rick Parfitts death I had film of him doing a comedy Christmas song scene with spoof musician Brian Pern. I decided to play it on my TV and record with my phone and then uploaded to You Tube.
I was amazed that 2 mins later it was blocked saying it was the property of the BBC.

Gimpymoo · 2 Jan 2017 at 12:58

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Location, UK.

Gimpymoo · 2 Jan 2017 at 13:01

https://polsy.org.uk/stuff/ytrestrict.cgi?ytid=n_a_BJl67Zs

Allowed countries:
HK - Hong Kong
JP - Japan

I set HOLA to Japan and it works.

Others from the UK say they can view though so confused. Maybe their ISP uses some caching which somehow bypasses such restrictions?

I am with Virgin Media for whats it is worth and I get the "This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." message.

The music industry is ran by dinosaurs who are still ****** about Napster

cainer · 2 Jan 2017 at 14:01

a buddy of mine uploaded a new vid thismorning that got CR warning, it plays ok on PC/laptop,
but anyone trying to view it from a mobile device gets the blocked in your location notice
that could be the reason why some can see this vid and others cant

EDIT: im on PC and just tried the link in the OP, blocked..

demonix · 2 Jan 2017 at 16:49

_Jimlad_ said:
I just made my new video of 2016, uploaded as a private video to share with family but YouTube mutted it because it had a coldplay song on it.

Anyone know any other alternative to YouTube where I can host my videos without all this copyright stuff.

That's most likely because it was picked up by auto detection and that would work regardless of if it's been set as public or private (any copyrighted material that runs for over 30 seconds would get caught by it).

As for an alternative, I doubt there is one that won't get hit by the movie and music mafia (vimeo isn't an option since they will remove infringing content) so you'll be better off just creating a DVD version of the video as a disc image and burning it to rewriteable discs so they can at least be reused each year.