YouTube Premium

james.miller · 15 Oct 2023 at 21:34

malachi said:
It wasn't a problem before Google purchased YouTube lol

Where did the funding come from in the year Youtube existed before google bought it?

Apex said:
I know, I have no idea where Google would find the money...

Advertising was what, $8bn for Youtube last year? You seem to be under the impression Google should just keep chucking $8bn a year and climbing at Youtube just so you can watch some videos without ads?

Youtube needs to be able to sustain itself. Google would have offloaded it years ago if it couldn't.

jonneymendoza · 15 Oct 2023 at 21:45

james.miller said:
Where did the funding come from in the year Youtube existed before google bought it?

Advertising was what, $8bn for Youtube last year? You seem to be under the impression Google should just keep chucking $8bn a year and climbing at Youtube just so you can watch some videos without ads?

Youtube needs to be able to sustain itself. Google would have offloaded it years ago if it couldn't.

Yes sustain there multi million accounts.

Poor souls.

james.miller · 15 Oct 2023 at 21:59

jonneymendoza said:
Yes sustain there multi million accounts.

Poor souls.

English?

jonneymendoza · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:01

james.miller said:
English?

Money?

Tealc · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:01

For the VPN thing...do you need to create a new google account for it to work or will an existing work just fine?

flibbage0 · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:03

Can anyone help with setting this up, tried doing Turkey, Argentina and even Ukraine with a VPN, still doesn't work. Says it's not available in my region?

silverblack · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:15

flibbage0 said:
Can anyone help with setting this up, tried doing Turkey, Argentina and even Ukraine with a VPN, still doesn't work. Says it's not available in my region?

Use a different browser,one that you have not logged into google.Start your VPN then navigate to google home page.
At the bottom it should tell your location turkey,argentina wherever you set the vpn too.Then goto youtube log in and you should see their currency when you want to sign up to premium.

flibbage0 · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:33

silverblack said:
Use a different browser,one that you have not logged into google.Start your VPN then navigate to google home page.
At the bottom it should tell your location turkey,argentina wherever you set the vpn too.Then goto youtube log in and you should see their currency when you want to sign up to premium.

Thanks, only doing this because my TIDAL subscription has ended

Captain · 15 Oct 2023 at 22:58

flibbage0 said:
Can anyone help with setting this up, tried doing Turkey, Argentina and even Ukraine with a VPN, still doesn't work. Says it's not available in my region?

If you want me to try, I’ll be home shortly.

flibbage0 · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:21

Cheapest one I could find that worked was Vietnam, now I need to transfer over my collection of 3000 tracks. Unfortunately all the transfer options charge

NoobTeamAgain · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:23

james.miller said:
How else do you suggest they pay for that monstrously expensive platform?

Stop hosting billions of hours of junk videos that nobody watches. Why should we pay for that?

azazl187 · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:25

Nitefly said:
Is it me or is YouTube getting really, really carried away with ads these days?! Feels like I’m watching Sky TV in the early 2000s.

I’m curious as to how many of you pay for YouTube premium and also interested to see if anyone has any tips to get it at a legitimate discount.

Cheers.

They make them extra super annoying too to force you to get premium. I just use Vanced on my phone but I can't do that on my TV so I'm getting more and more tempted with just getting premium

james.miller · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:27

NoobTeamAgain said:
Stop hosting billions of hours of junk videos that nobody watches. Why should we pay for that?

Yes, stop hosting videos that nobody watches. That'll make a huge difference.

Rroff · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:36

On the one hand I'm not against paying for YT premium, but on the other hand too many parts of the site are like something out of the 90s, comments, search, etc. are way too poor for the price they want. I'm dead set against paying for it though on principle due to the way they try to manipulate and frustrate people into paying with the ad patterns (something which has come out as something they do). They'd have to make some serious changes or drop the price a lot for me to feel like it was worth the money despite spending a lot of time on YT.

Again not going to say how as it will just result in it quickly being removed but they've messed something up with the latest platform update and you can instantly skip all but mid-live stream ads without using any external tools, but a feature of the site itself, which I think is hilarious.

ianh · 16 Oct 2023 at 00:37

I have a different issue with buying premium in that, I very rarely ever log into anything "Google" on my PC, so I watch YT whilst being logged out for 100% of my YT time, meaning buying Premium would require me to be logged in. I genuinely think it's been about 9 years since I last logged in (Nov '14 rings a bell as I'd literally just left the RAF days before) and old habits die hard for me.

When I find a channel I like (about 65 so far) I add them as a favourite into my browser so that has become my "subscription" method and, should I feel the need to financially support any of the much smaller channels, most have a Patreon page or similar to donate money directly. I also see that some of those channels are earning $10k-$85k a month just from these sites so generally don't give money to those ones.

Apex · 16 Oct 2023 at 01:13

james.miller said:
Where did the funding come from in the year Youtube existed before google bought it?

Advertising was what, $8bn for Youtube last year? You seem to be under the impression Google should just keep chucking $8bn a year and climbing at Youtube just so you can watch some videos without ads?

Youtube needs to be able to sustain itself. Google would have offloaded it years ago if it couldn't.

You're quite right, that's exactly what I think. :cry:

**** Google, I don't give a **** how it funds YT either. Why should I? How much are they worth again?

I think they owe everyone free unfettered YT for all the data and information they have stolen from us, they're utter *****, and I find it absolutely baffling why anyone would defend their interests.

That's my take, I'm not going to run defense for hugely wealthy and exploitative mega-corps - I'll leave that up to others.

james.miller · 16 Oct 2023 at 01:35

Right, well, the real world doesnt work like that so..? :shrug:

jon86 · 16 Oct 2023 at 02:40

ianh said:
I have a different issue with buying premium in that, I very rarely ever log into anything "Google" on my PC, so I watch YT whilst being logged out for 100% of my YT time, meaning buying Premium would require me to be logged in. I genuinely think it's been about 9 years since I last logged in (Nov '14 rings a bell as I'd literally just left the RAF days before) and old habits die hard for me.

When I find a channel I like (about 65 so far) I add them as a favourite into my browser so that has become my "subscription" method and, should I feel the need to financially support any of the much smaller channels, most have a Patreon page or similar to donate money directly. I also see that some of those channels are earning $10k-$85k a month just from these sites so generally don't give money to those ones.

You could just use a "Piped" alternative to the YouTube frontend, like https://invidious.io.

kona786 · 16 Oct 2023 at 06:56

malachi said:
It wasn't a problem before Google purchased YouTube lol

Nor was it anywhere near as good.

At the end of the day if you don't like it then vote with your wallet and don't use it.

jpaul · 16 Oct 2023 at 08:35

Malevolence said:
Yeah, this isn't going to get annoying. Luckily you can just hit the 'X' and get rid - for now.

another corollary - context menu option to copy video url at current time point is gone ... so have to artificially create it , if that still works.
(they want people to watch from the start)