ZEN SR7 Rumoured January 17th Release

[RavenXXX2]

AMD "New Horizon" Event to Preview ZEN Processor Mid-December

AMD's next-generation ZEN processor family is bound for a grand entrance this December, with the company planning a special media event that will be live-streamed to the public. Called "New Horizon," AMD is designing the event to be an "exclusive advanced preview" of the processor ahead of its Q1-2017 scheduled launch. The preview will see eSports and Evil Geniuses legend PPD put "Zen" through its paces, according to its announcement. With this AMD appears to be showing off the chip's advanced gaming capabilities. " If you're serious about gaming, this is an event you do not want to miss," AMD's announcement signs off. The event stream goes live on the 13th of December, at 15:00 CST (21:00 hrs UTC).

https://www.techpowerup.com/228272/amd-new-horizon-event-to-preview-zen-processor-mid-december

 

[ukxenon]

I just hope the is as good as they say we need them back in because Intel have been too laid back as of late

 

[ToTheMax]

I just hope the is as good as they say we need them back in because Intel have been too laid back as of late

Yes we need it as good as possible to wake Intel up. Progress is just drip fed now which isn't what we want.

 

[Erik13]

With Kaby Lake performance leakes i say this is golden opportunity for Amd

 

[jigger]

Yes we need it as good as possible to wake Intel up. Progress is just drip fed now which isn't what we want.

This isn't the Athlon v Pentium situation, so I can't AMD forcing Intels hand. Intel will need to make that decision for themselves.

Intel have been doing their own thing for the last 7 years. Offering mobile chips to the desktop seems to be be working for them and Intel have developed them pretty well to be fair. The mobile design now makes a pretty good impression of an "enthusiast" desktop chip. I can't see Intel designing a proper desktop chip in response any time soon and even if Intel did want to revive the desktop power house line it would be years development.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Let's hope its at least some competition for intel then. Hopefully we see 5960x perf at £4-500. I also hope AMD don't get greedy with this one as well and don't start using intel pricing.

A lot of people complaining about 10% IPC from intel gen-gen without realising how difficult it is to get huge gains from a minor architectural change. And expecting the drop from 14nm to 7nm to be something they can knock up. It's difficult guys, very.

AMD have had A LONG time with zen. Going from 32nm to 14nm coupled with multi/hyper-threading ability. Presents some pretty exiting gains.

 

[jigger]

Let's hope its at least some competition for intel then. Hopefully we see 5960x perf at £4-500. I also hope AMD don't get greedy with this one as well and don't start using intel pricing.

A lot of people complaining about 10% IPC from intel gen-gen without realising how difficult it is to get huge gains from a minor architectural change. And expecting the drop from 14nm to 7nm to be something they can knock up. It's difficult guys, very.

AMD have had A LONG time with zen. Going from 32nm to 14nm coupled with multi/hyper-threading ability. Presents some pretty exiting gains.

It's not hard to make the chips faster, but Intel have walled themselves into a corner buy dropping the true desktop chip and realigning the other ranges to fill the gap. I doubt the share holders would approve Intel giving anything more than the bare minimum too.

Intel's stance on enthusiasts is pretty clear and has been for while. They killed the FSB, then killed non K multiplier overclocking and strong armed motherboard market to kill off Skylake clock generator overclocking. They even pulled ECC support from the i range chips and desktop boards.

 

[bru]

It is easy to forget that the entire socket 1151 line of Intel chips are APU ' S, the enthusiasts chips are the socket 2011 one's.

Not saying what Intel have done is ok, just reminding people.

 

[Doogles]

It is easy to forget that the entire socket 1151 line of Intel chips are APU ' S, the enthusiasts chips are the socket 2011 one's.

Not saying what Intel have done is ok, just reminding people.

But they don't have as good IPC as say a 6700k!

 

[jigger]

It is easy to forget that the entire socket 1151 line of Intel chips are APU ' S, the enthusiasts chips are the socket 2011 one's.

Not saying what Intel have done is ok, just reminding people.

Well the X99 chips are Xeon's and I'm not sure enthusiast is the right term or that's who buys them. The 5820K is about as enthusiastic as socket 2011 has ever been.

 

[bru]

Well the X99 chips are Xeon's and I'm not sure enthusiast is the right term or that's who buys them. The 5820K is about as enthusiastic as socket 2011 has ever been.

Well on that basis the Socket 2011 chips are Xeon's just as much as an i7 6700K is a mobile chip.

Yes we know the roots of the architecture was based on the mobile core for all the i3, i5 and i7 non socket 2011/1366 chips just as the 2011/1366 were all server core based. but don't you think that after several generations of this is a little unfair to call all X99 chips Xenon's.

 

[humbug]

Well on that basis the Socket 2011 chips are Xeon's just as much as an i7 6700K is a mobile chip.

They are, all Intel have done in the last few years is R&D the power down trying to get into a space dominated by ARM.

The 6700K is a small cheap to make chip with small amounts of cache designed for low power rather than performance....

You might say "oh but the performance is so much better than....." AMD?

The performance has hardly moved in 10 years.
No need for it to move, no competition, you get what you're given at the price we pull out of our arse.

 

[jigger]

Well on that basis the Socket 2011 chips are Xeon's just as much as an i7 6700K is a mobile chip.

Yes we know the roots of the architecture was based on the mobile core for all the i3, i5 and i7 non socket 2011/1366 chips just as the 2011/1366 were all server core based. but don't you think that after several generations of this is a little unfair to call all X99 chips Xenon's.

No because they're Xeon's

 

[bru]

No because they're Xeon's

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel i7-6800K 3.40GHz (Broadwell-E) Socket LGA2011-V3 Processor - Retail *FREE GAMES*= £379.99

Total: £388.69
(includes shipping: £8.70)
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Funny no mention of the word Xenon there.


Nor here.

https://ark.intel.com/products/94189/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

Intel doesn't call them Xenon's it has a whole line of Xenon CPU's look here.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/processors/intel/xeon-e5



oh look a very expensive rx480 and a gtx1080 with twice the ram.


my basket at overclockers uk:

• 1 x AMD Radeon Pro WX7100 Professional Graphics Card - 8GB GDDR5 - 2304 Stream Processors= £674.39
• 1 x PNY Nvidia Quadro P5000 Graphics Card - 16GB GDDR5X - 2560 CUDA Core= £2,087.99

Total: £2,772.88
(includes shipping: £10.50)
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[jigger]

Hey man you can call them whatever you want. You might get pulled up on it from time to time on a enthusiast forum, and some people think you don't know what your talking about. But yeah fill you boots if it makes you feel good or you think it's unfair

 

[Martini1991]

If this really does launch on the 17th of Jan, then it's literally as I move into my house.
I've got two weeks off from the 16th.

So, my PC wouldn't be set up.

Is this fate?

 

[Doogles]

If this really does launch on the 17th of Jan, then it's literally as I move into my house.
I've got two weeks off from the 16th.

So, my PC wouldn't be set up.

Is this fate?

No you get something called a box and sit on it with a desk made of cardboard!

 

[Martini1991]

No you get something called a box and sit on it with a desk made of cardboard!

My new house isn't that bad

 

[Caracus2k]

you get what you're given at the price we pull out of our arse.

Intel's consumer cpu pricing has been very consistent since at least sandy bridge...

I have previously posted the below entry... Basically its not true that price rises (at least since sandy bridge) are down to 'no competition' it the weakening £/$ that's primarily responsible ......

Intel's high end consumer cpu pricing (in $'s) been pretty steady since at least sandybridge. Price difference (in £'s) is down to exchange rates and previously shortages of skylake cpu's in retail channels....

The current 6700k price doesn't reflect any recent increase in price from intel.

Check out the launch bulk prices (i.e. what Intel sell on to retailers OEM’s etc) for the previous ‘top end’ i7 consumer socket four core/ eight thread CPU’s over the past four years


http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/85...-14nm-skylake/

Launch 1ku prices

6700k $350 - August 2015
5775c $366
4790k $339
4770k $339
3770k $313
2700k $332 - October 2011


Allowing for inflation (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ ) from 2011 to 2015 plugging the 2700k value in gives an inflation adjusted price of…………………….


Drum roll


$351.20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Hardly representative of your statement...

 

[jigger]

Intel's consumer cpu pricing has been very consistent since at least sandy bridge...



Hardly representative of your statement...

Consistently climbing.