Zero drinks vs standard sugar?

Anything that is Diet, low in sugar or Zero, will contain Aspartame.

There is loads of things going around about how its dangerous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Some companies are moving away from Aspartame and moving on to Sucralose, but again this comes with more health warnings.

Some reported side effects..

* After FDA approval, a study published in the Journal of Head and Face Pain reported sucralose as a possible trigger for migraine patients.

* Journal of Mutation Research linked high doses of sucralose to DNA damage in mice.

* Concerns have been raised about the effect of sucralose on the thymus, an organ that is important to the immune system.

Personally i don't touch any coke product, as stated by a few people here its full of E numbers and sugar.
 
Yes, but read any site claiming to have proof and they list a set of symptoms thats just so ludicrously unlikely to have a single cause. Many many of the reports claim so many caffeine symptoms, headaches, jitteryness, sleep problems, etc, etc, etc. They list 40 symptoms of high caffeine or withdrawal of caffeine but simply claim its the aspartame.

Every single site reads like a internet conspiracy site, if someone made a legitimate research study, found a way to present the information without coming across as a whackjob, and who doesn't randomly list symptoms the same as dozens of very common problems people have without aspartame and I may take some notice. But like i said, 90% of the sites claiming its bad are completely hopeless, lots do the

"i will show you multiple pictures of unhealthy mice with no proof they were even part of this study as complete proof, while everything I write makes me sound like I wear tin foil on my head and secretly think oxygen is killing me"

Oh, its also worth noting that many companies would be very happy to see aspartame withdrawn. Think of the hundreds of thousands(probably) of products its used in, the massive manufacturing and profit being made. The guys behind sucralose might, just might have cause to spread a little misinformation and "rumours" about how bad a product they want to replace is. If there was really a bad problem with it, wheres the REAL research. HEll there might be something wrong with it in, but then again, egg's are very very good for you, eat WAY to many and your cholestrol levels will kill you one day. Everything, water, oxygen, eggs, fat, carbs, protein, EVERYTHING is dangerous for you at certain levels. No one will live for ever and we will all, without question eat lots of things that in 5 years turn out to be really bad, the thing thats replaced will be see is healthy, and 5 years later that will be found out to be bad. Who cares at the end of the day, i prefer not to eat so boringly and safely that i live the extra years from 100 to 105 not knowing who i am, not being able to walk, or look after myself. Such a loss that would be.
 
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Phosphoric acid is one of the biggest problems with fizzy drinks, This is what is capable of dissolving the enamel of your teeth (slightly weakening it anyway). Prolonged use is able to cause surface defects, which then lead to surfaces bacteria and other materials are able to be lodged and cause further damage.

Aspartame is still an unknown factor, like most things man made it is not known what prolonged exposure will lead to. In most cases I suspect it will have no long term effects but that is only an opinion.

Studies like this will not be funded as a large area of the economy would collapse, eg cigarettes which took many years to publish and acknowledge their own research!

A lot of people will bury their heads not wanting to know, so it will not be resolved for a long time.

Note: I am not directly comparing fizzy drinks to be as dangerous as cigarettes.
 
i like the M&S diet coke, it tastes really good, better than anything coca cola comes up with. pepsi diet is good and pepsi max. although, lucozade flat orange beats them all hands down for hangover drink! :p
 
its interesting reading through the replies and seeing the different opinions on what is actually 'sweet'. for me, pepsi max is by far the sweetest. i used to love the stuff but having tried it recently, its like drinking molten sugar. blurgh. diet coke doesnt taste right, leaves a funny taste in my mouth. coke zero is half way between that and normal coke.

normal coke is the only cola i do drink these days. but these days i avoid all fizzy drinks but i might have 1 a wek or something.
 
I drink:
  • green
  • rooibos
  • lapsang suchong
  • gunpowder
  • traditional English
  • ginger*
  • darjeeling
  • assam
  • ceylon
  • jasmine
  • chinese
  • yunnan

..tea. No fizzy drinks. Water or freshly squeezed (and unpasturised) fruit juice.

No milk or sugar!

* = excellent tea to drink before singing.

Stick to stuff without sugar or sweetners.
 
There is some evidence to suggest drinking sugar free drinks may actually cause weight gain.

Here is a snippet from wiki:
Animal studies have convincingly proven that artificial sweeteners cause body weight gain. A sweet taste induces an insulin response, which causes blood sugar to be stored in tissues (including fat), but because blood sugar does not increase with artificial sugars, there is hypoglycemia and increased food intake the next time there is a meal. After a while, rats given sweeteners have steadily increased caloric intake, increased body weight, and increased adiposity (fatness). Furthermore, the natural responses to eating sugary foods (eating less at the next meal and using some of the extra calories to warm the body after the sugary meal) are gradually lost.

Swithers SE, Davidson TL. A role for sweet taste: calorie predictive relations in energy regulation by rats. Behav Neurosci. 2008 Feb;122(1):161-73
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platypus said:
freshly squeezed (and unpasturised) fruit juice.
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I think you'll find that's quite a lot of sugar.

330ml of coke contains 40g of sugar, compared to 33g in orange juice. Guinness has fewer calories per pint.

I know the sugar is unrefined, but it's still a lot of sugar.

With you on the tea though.
 
Aye I know theres a lot of sugar in it, but given the form its in, its miles better then Coke et al ;).

Given the rest of my diet and the amount of exercise I do it's not a problem.
 
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