Zimbabwe 2.0 Inbound

White people out there are already screwed, no hope any more. Most of the people I know have already left or are working towards it. You just can't teach stupid, only when they're starving to death and rubbing sticks together for fire will they realize that running a country, and more importantly, providing for it, is slightly harder than they anticipate.

I say let all the educated people leave and leave these idiots to do their thing. When they've ruined the entire country then simply invade again, take over and this time educate them rather than enslave them
 
I can kind of understand where they coming from (not that I agree with it) in trying to redistribute wealth gained during the inequality of apartheid. However it was ended nearly 30 years ago so probably most of those people are dead and your just penalising their children/beneficiaries for the actions of their parents.
 
I used to live in South Africa when I was a kid. My dad got a job in a coal mine as an electrician so we flew out and lived there for a few years. This was back in the 70's when apartheid was in full swing. The abuse my dad endured from the Afrikaans (descendants of the Dutch settlers) was unreal and constant. The Afrikaans hated the English almost as much as they hated the blacks. In the end my dad had taken all he could and we packed up and came back to the UK.

Anyway, skip forward a few decades to Nelson Mandela's release and for a while it seemed like South Africa may have a bright future. Apartheid was over, the country was well developed for an African nation and Nelson Mandela was a great and moral leader. Sadly though, with this new crowd in power it looks like South Africa is going backwards. Taking land of white farmers without compensation is just the beginning I feel, of what could be another kind of apartheid, only this time directed at the white people.
 
imagine a world where africa as a continent could get it's act together and unite as a nation without all the tribal politics.

they could be a world superpower if they got their **** together.
 
There is a huge cover up in SA currently about the murder/rape/torture of white farm owners in SA. Its real, savage, brutal and down right evil what has happened to a significant amount of white farmers. The government do not even acknowledge it as a problem. Even people that report it to western sources are subject to terrible treatment by the government and police. It REALLY doesn't surprise me that this vote has passed.
 
It is pretty dumb, they could look at solving the issue via inheritance tax on farms (which perhaps could be mitigated via giving the state a stake in the farm) and use the funds for compulsory purchases at market rates if desired. It doesn't make much sense though for the economy to potentially destroy established/successful farming operations.

Also it obviously gets people worked up easily because they can go for the whole black white thing, ignoring perhaps that a lot of blacks aren't exactly native to the area either but descended from more recent arrivals/war like tribes who'd have been even more violent and brutal than the colonisers they dislike so much, albeit without the technology/resources to project power.

Also it isn't as though this sort of thing doesn't exist in other countries, the U.K. itself wasn't a very equal place until relatively recently, we've got a royal family, aristocracy etc...

50% of Scotland is owned by less than 500 people... if they were mostly light skinned and the average person there dark skinned then perhaps the whole identity/race thing would come into play there too, but instead it is much less visible to the man in the street.

Trying to take stuff away without compensation because some group is seen as both privileged and a problem is a dangerous path. Jews in Germany and elsewhere were seen as disproportionately successful, wealthy etc... and resentment was generated towards them, it's not a good situation to create.


imagine a world where africa as a continent could get it's act together and unite as a nation without all the tribal politics.

they could be a world superpower if they got their **** together.

Black Panther is just a movie.
 
I can't imagine this will end well. The concept isn't completely retarded but lets be honest, all that will happen is that the powerful black elite in SA will take over the farms and their mates will run them and the average person won't see any change to their fortunes. Still, its a good excuse.
 
I can't imagine this will end well. The concept isn't completely retarded but lets be honest, all that will happen is that the powerful black elite in SA will take over the farms and their mates will run them and the average person won't see any change to their fortunes. Still, its a good excuse.

The trouble is the farms then go on to people who don't know how to run them and the locals are worse off than they were beforehand.

I've already mentioned this about Zimbabwe where a friend of my dad was evicted from their land. They employed about 100 people (mostly black). They provided accommodation of a good standard. They even had a primary school for the workers' children.

The land is now fallow. Those people are out of jobs, home and their kids out of education. Well done.
 
With the exception of the Belgians and the filthy Boers, it's no exaggeration to say that in general terms, Africa was more stable and prosperous under colonial rule. Ever since the Europeans left, it's been one catastrophe after another.

The 1904-1907 Herero and Nama genocide was the only colonial era event comparable to modern African atrocities. Ever since the last European walked out, Africans have been oppressing, invading, and slaughtering each other in record numbers. Like Iraq under Hussein, heavy-handed rule was the only thing that kept the whole place intact.
 
A move of truly astounding stupidity. I have rarely heard or seen a positive thing about South Africa in the last 10 years and this is the cherry on the trifle. They are absolutely hell bent on turning their country into another backward basket case. They have inherited a golden gift from Mandela and De Klerk and have no idea how to cherish it, it's so sad.
 
Black Panther is just a movie.

lol, you got me there.

although my point is serious, as a continent africa is rich in various natural resources, has plenty of land for agriculture and the ability to support a large population. with a united government and improvements to infrastructure it seems like no worse a candidate for becoming a world power than any of the european nations, china russia or america
 
There is a huge cover up in SA currently about the murder/rape/torture of white farm owners in SA. Its real, savage, brutal and down right evil what has happened to a significant amount of white farmers. The government do not even acknowledge it as a problem. Even people that report it to western sources are subject to terrible treatment by the government and police. It REALLY doesn't surprise me that this vote has passed.
It's not really covered up tho is it. Apparently in their parliament the other week, the issue was raised by an opposition MP, and one of the ANC MPs shouted "Bury them [the white farmers] alive!" whilst he was speaking.

Not exactly subtle or covered up :p

In fact it's well-known that the ANC supports the efforts kill whites and drive them out of the country. They keep saying whites "should not provoke attacks on themselves" and "we can't protect the whites". They want this to happen, and are letting it happen.

It's common knowledge really. No cover up.
 
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